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Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by ace32229 »

reidjs wrote: post #185
xvedejas wrote: post #132

In Age of Empires tournaments, they simply put the players in a different room from the casters/audience, with live streaming cameras. Maybe because live audiences are relatively rare in these tournaments, there's less of a demand for players to be physically in the same room as the audience?

You may be thinking of pre twitch/YouTube. These players sell out coliseums for $100s of dollars per ticket. The fans want to at least physically see them play, even if it’s through a window. once you rely on webcams then you may as well be watching on twitch for free.

Specifically, this year's TI finals tickets are $699+fees for the 3 day pass.

Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by JCharante »

pyreko wrote: post #165
Dowwie wrote: post #140

this photo from the article amazes me: https://clan.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/images//3703047/a37c... that's a packed stadium, up to the nose bleeds

Similar photo from League of Legends' world finals from 2022 (Chase Center): https://res.cloudinary.com/dxb0ptf6a/image/upload/c_fill,dpr... If you haven't been paying attention to the eSports scene it can definitely be really surprising, but the crowd size and the production value of these things is insane to think about, especially if you aren't expecting it for just a video game.

That looks like a small stadium compared to one used in 2017 https://www.flickr.com/photos/lolesports/38160463331

Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by ricardobeat »

pstrateman wrote: post #160
ricardobeat wrote: post #80

I wonder if they have looked into air curtains. Commercial installations are at a point where you have this silent, completely invisible sheet of fast-moving air that provides some degree of noise isolation as well - maybe four walls of these + a floating ceiling is enough when coupled with the noise-cancelling headphones.

It's much much too loud for air curtains.

It's not going to make it any worse. They just need to reduce noise levels enough to make the noise cancellation more effective, so they could keep the open booth + headphone setup instead of a soundbooth.

They also add some pink noise from the air and motors which might help.

In any case, just an idea, data on their effectiveness seems hard to find.

Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by Cyph0n »

swores wrote: post #190
Cyph0n wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We’re going in circles here.. where did I say most people have played MOBA?

Well you said "most people" without clarifying whether you meant that generally (the way the other commenter assumed and so replied) or whether you meant "of people who know it, most of them..." In internet comments, if you're not really specific with your words it's likely at least somebody will misunderstand your intent, partly because they can't read your mind and partly because with so many potential readers the…

In internet comments, if you can’t follow the context of the thread discussion, don’t reply.

Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by swores »

Cyph0n wrote: post #194
swores wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well you said "most people" without clarifying whether you meant that generally (the way the other commenter assumed and so replied) or whether you meant "of people who know it, most of them..." In internet comments, if you're not really specific with your words it's likely at least somebody will misunderstand your intent, partly because they can't read your mind and partly because with so many potential readers the…

In internet comments, if you can’t follow the context of the thread discussion, don’t reply.

Your comment was not clear even with context. I read it the same way as the person who replied to it.

Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by rpaddock »

The former Westinghouse Electric Sharon Transformer Plant is a 58-acre facility located in Mercer County, Pennsylvania. They built substation transformers there. To test them the rolled them into a sound proof room, on a rail car, to listen for hum. Lose windings would vibrate causing hum and generate damaging heat. When I was there I was told that if wanted to rent it, they would fix the 440V door system (someone took the cooper).

To give you a size perspective of this place, our tour guide, from the balcony, said "See that toy truck down there? That is a full size 18-wheeler." It took us a 20 minute walk to reach that full size truck that looked like a child's toy in this MASSIVE room.

Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by stephen_g »

cwillu wrote: post #177
nativeit wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds cannot pass through a vacuum, as sound is fundamentally pressure waves that propagate through air. Someone also mentioned the thermal properties of the fill gas (argon being less conductive than air) and it’s also correlated, as temperature is simply a measure of the kinetic energy of molecules, so a higher mass molecule will require more energy to move, which applies to both thermal conductivity and sound tra…

You can support two panes with a gas in between with a strip of soft rubber, whereas with vacuum, I suspect the rigidity of the frame needed to support the panes against atmospheric pressure can easily kill the gains you make in isolation.

There are vacuum insulated units [1], they need tiny plastic 'microspacers' in them to keep the glass layers apart.

1. https://www.pilkington.com/en/global/products/product-catego...

Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by Aeroi »

rpaddock wrote: post #196

The former Westinghouse Electric Sharon Transformer Plant is a 58-acre facility located in Mercer County, Pennsylvania. They built substation transformers there. To test them the rolled them into a sound proof room, on a rail car, to listen for hum. Lose windings would vibrate causing hum and generate damaging heat. When I was there I was told that if wanted to rent it, they would fix the 440V door system (someone to…

thats awesome, what were you going to rent the space for?

Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by cwillu »

stephen_g wrote: post #197
cwillu wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can support two panes with a gas in between with a strip of soft rubber, whereas with vacuum, I suspect the rigidity of the frame needed to support the panes against atmospheric pressure can easily kill the gains you make in isolation.

There are vacuum insulated units [1], they need tiny plastic 'microspacers' in them to keep the glass layers apart. 1. https://www.pilkington.com/en/global/products/product-catego...

And those spacers are rigid, which will remove a lot of the acoustic gains you'd otherwise get from using a vacuum.

It's worth noting that, although the page you linked says “good acoustic performance”, the vacuum windows they offer aren't mentioned on their noise control product page, nor listed in their sound simulator tool.

Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by Aachen »

charcircuit wrote: post #117
Aachen wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never heard it in my life and I play games (not Dota) and get around on the internet generally. My first association was clank from hermitcraft's decked out, but that didn't quite fit. Farming is what I figured from context, though

It's such a common term around mobas that I doubt you haven't heard it before. Considering the popularity of the genre it's statistically unlikely that it hasn't come up.

I don't play mobas specifically, though
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