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Insiders reveal problems at Upside Foods

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Re: Insiders reveal problems at Upside Foods

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Meat tastes good. Mushrooms taste good, but in a different way. You can want a perfect world, but it will never exist. Like it or don't, solving meat consumption and its effects on the planet is something we'll have to do. That probably involves a meaty substitute for meat.

Does meat actually taste good though? When has anyone ordered unseasoned chicken? Salt and spices taste good.

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Re: Insiders reveal problems at Upside Foods

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Another scam, imagine that.

I only skimmed it, but nothing in the article said scam? More just that they are facing enormous problems scaling production. Both at producing macroscopic quantities of chicken (vs thin chicken sheets) and how to productionize the process so it could produce the mega tons required to be a commercial product.

> I only skimmed it, but nothing in the article said scam?

Employee: "the startup could be the next Theranos".

Re: Insiders reveal problems at Upside Foods

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> Another former employee confirmed that staffers at the company would make jokes comparing Upside to Theranos. that's taking it a little far... their goal is providing an ethical food source, not revolutionizing human diagnoses can't wait for meat-less meat tech to get through its paces and take the time to mature. humans took hundreds of years to figure out how to herd cattle; what's another few years to make it in…

i suppose "we're getting the cell growing procedure worked out so that we're ready for when we can make our own stem cells" is a bit more believable than "we're getting the blood pinprick transport device worked out for when we have the sensor technology to do anything with it"

Re: Insiders reveal problems at Upside Foods

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post #29
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meat tastes good. Mushrooms taste good, but in a different way. You can want a perfect world, but it will never exist. Like it or don't, solving meat consumption and its effects on the planet is something we'll have to do. That probably involves a meaty substitute for meat.

Does meat actually taste good though? When has anyone ordered unseasoned chicken? Salt and spices taste good.

Just for fun and games, let's apply your logic but inverse the argument.

Do salt and spices actually taste good though? When has anyone ordered only salt and spices?

Need both (or salt, spices and vegetables/lentils/beans etc), and a skilled cook for delicious meal.

Re: Insiders reveal problems at Upside Foods

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post #29
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meat tastes good. Mushrooms taste good, but in a different way. You can want a perfect world, but it will never exist. Like it or don't, solving meat consumption and its effects on the planet is something we'll have to do. That probably involves a meaty substitute for meat.

Does meat actually taste good though? When has anyone ordered unseasoned chicken? Salt and spices taste good.

I really think the "you don't actually like meat" strategy is counterproductive to the cause of getting people comfortable with alternatives.

Re: Insiders reveal problems at Upside Foods

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The real success in this area is the Impossible burger. It's made mostly from peas and soy, with heme added to produce the bloody meat texture. The heme is made in a fermentation process not much more complex than brewing. Impossible has no problems with volume production - they sell through Burger King and WalMart. Growth rate about 85%/year.

Re: Insiders reveal problems at Upside Foods

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I only skimmed it, but nothing in the article said scam? More just that they are facing enormous problems scaling production. Both at producing macroscopic quantities of chicken (vs thin chicken sheets) and how to productionize the process so it could produce the mega tons required to be a commercial product.

> I only skimmed it, but nothing in the article said scam? Employee: "the startup could be the next Theranos".

Employee in-jokes are not at all proof of misbehavior.

Lots of teams poke fun at their shortcomings.

They obviously don't look great, but you're excerpting that as if it's employee testimony. It wasn't.

Re: Insiders reveal problems at Upside Foods

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meat tastes good. Mushrooms taste good, but in a different way. You can want a perfect world, but it will never exist. Like it or don't, solving meat consumption and its effects on the planet is something we'll have to do. That probably involves a meaty substitute for meat.

Does meat actually taste good though? When has anyone ordered unseasoned chicken? Salt and spices taste good.

It does taste good!

When cooked, most meats have the necessary fats needed to bring out great flavor. Anyone who has done primitive camping can tell you just how good meat cooked in various ways is!

Re: Insiders reveal problems at Upside Foods

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does meat actually taste good though? When has anyone ordered unseasoned chicken? Salt and spices taste good.

I really think the "you don't actually like meat" strategy is counterproductive to the cause of getting people comfortable with alternatives.

It totally is.

I like meat. In fact, I really like it.

No shame in that.

The answer is in the fact that I (we) like a lot of other stuff!

Maximize that and meat consumption will be reduced.

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