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TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Except it didn’t. My daughter in the US created an account and it didn’t require any family pairing or verification that the adult paired with her was her parent

These are EU laws that only pertain to the EU. US has different laws.

I guess TikTok has different software policies per country

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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This is a good start, but I'm going to be very curious to see if EU data law ever starts getting enforced against european companies at scale, as opposed to international companies.

> european companies at scale

Such a thing would need to exist before the EU would be able to fine it.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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These are serious, proportionate fines that meaningfully affect the bottom line. These companies are demonstrably making big changes in order to comply. They have been testing out the boundaries and seeing how close to the wind they can sail, but I think that's coming to an end now that they're seeing the impact of the new approach to enforcement. The clearest sign for me was Meta's decision to delay the launch of Th…

> Of course that creates the possibility of a two-tier internet where EU customers simply don't get access to products this has already happened. google’s bard took it’s time to launch in europe. the young kid in me that always thought we finally have a piece of tech that is beyond what politicians can control, that transcend borders and nationalities is saddened. but it is what it is, and without some breakthroughs…

"a system that cannot be controlled, censored"

sounds like the Safe Network! too bad it will never be finished in our lifetimes

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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> It also found that the “family pairing” scheme, which gives an adult control over a child’s account settings, did not check whether the adult “paired” with the child user was a parent or guardian. How exactly are TikTok meant to be verify parents? Are other tech companies expected to verify parents? It seems like no one else is being fined for this?

Instagram was just fined even more for the same thing.

https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/05/instagram-gdpr-fine-childr...

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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> It also found that the “family pairing” scheme, which gives an adult control over a child’s account settings, did not check whether the adult “paired” with the child user was a parent or guardian. How exactly are TikTok meant to be verify parents? Are other tech companies expected to verify parents? It seems like no one else is being fined for this?

Instagram was just fined even more for the same thing. https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/05/instagram-gdpr-fine-childr...

1. How do regulators expect tech companies to verify the real age of users (without further intrusions of privacy)?

2. How do the regulators expect tech companies to verify the parents of child users?

3. Do regulators want tech companies to collect every child's birth certificate?

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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> It also found that the “family pairing” scheme, which gives an adult control over a child’s account settings, did not check whether the adult “paired” with the child user was a parent or guardian. How exactly are TikTok meant to be verify parents? Are other tech companies expected to verify parents? It seems like no one else is being fined for this?

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Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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You keep throwing around the "unbelievable" and "unreasonable" fines. Why do you think that these fines are "unbelievable" and "unreasonable"? Because for me they are rather on the low side, given the business practices, the reach and the potential for abuse that these companies have.

1) They stopped it 3 years when their was an inquiry. 2) 2.6% of revenue for a company that isn't even profitable. 3) 2.6% of revenue for a global company, how much of this then is only EU revenue?? Are they supposed to get their legs cut off just for breaking one law of the 5 million that they're suppose to comply with? 4) This was a first offense for this company. 5) They're not doing anything harmful with the data…

1) GDRP has been in effect since 2018. It doesn't matter that they were in violation of the law "only" two years - they broke the law.

2) Just because they are incompetent doesn't mean they get to break the law. Why should incompetent businesses be absolved from any wrongdoing?

3) If they want to do business in the EU they have to play by the EU's laws. If they cannot abide by the EU's rules, they probably should not try to make business in the EU.

4) That's why they only have to pay 2.6%.

5) There were multiple breaches that exposed user's data. You might think that exposing user's data is not that serious, the EU has decided otherwise. The burden by law is with the company, not the parents.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Drop in the bucket. Meaningless if anything a way for the EU regulators to wave the flag that they are maybe doing something but not so much as to take on TikTok

Ok Mea Culpa - it was a hot take as the number seemed pretty low. Still feels relatively low but probably should be taken as a warning shot.

$367M USD (If that's the final cost to Tik Tok) vs their $11B revenue for 2022 - is a noticeable hit for the company.

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