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TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by hef19898 »

adra wrote: post #270
throwaway74902 wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I run my app on Azure, is Microsoft responsible for me breaking GDPR? SAP runs your instance, but isn't responsible for what you do with it.

If they're deemed a data processors then yes in fact they do need to care about the application of the laws. SAP has user management at least in terms of companys' own users which will likely have PII.

The personal data handled by SAP, the ERP system not the company, is very well compartementalized and accessible only need-to-know. Assuming proper user rights policies and roles are in place, but that is on SAPs client, amd not SAP themselves.

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Post by mcpackieh »

personomas wrote: post #264
hef19898 wrote: post #210

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You do know that corporations are not people? Right?

Obviously. That doesn't mean its good to drive our companies into the dirt, just because they're not people. People depend on them. People work for these companies. Their significance is perhaps far greater than actually ruining just the lives of one person.

> our companies

Oh ho ho ho. Now your comments ITT suddenly make sense.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by hef19898 »

dahfizz wrote: post #271
hef19898 wrote: post #262

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Oh, I think it is totally ok to bankrupt a company for not following the law.

For any violation at all? If one single McDonalds employee in Dublin breaks the health code, you think all of McDonalds should go bankrupt? I assume you also support the death penalty for J walking?

If it is a single McD employee, fine said restaurant (which is already the case, but you onow that don't you?). If it is a general issue with a franchise chain (McD is running a franchise, so the company to go bankrupt is most likely a franchise in your example), fine them. And yes, that can lead to bankruptcy, as happened a couple of years ago with a Burger King franchise chain in Munich.

If McD is knowlingly selling carcinogenic burgers world wide and reguses to stop, sure, bankcrupt McD.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by paulddraper »

mym1990 wrote: post #174

Any breaking of the law in regards to children needs to absolutely incinerate the offending party, this fine seems like a drop in the bucket. Kids these days are bombarded by terrible industry practices because companies know if they can get a child hooked, they could be a customer for life(or at least a period of time in their adulthood). In the US, kids are advertised to at literally every corner of their life...in…

What is your frame of reference for considering 300+ million euro a drop??

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Post by skummetmaelk »

logicchains wrote: post #247
yard2010 wrote: post #98

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That's monopoly money. Put the ones in charge behind the bars, that's something that might make them think twice before breaking the law again

Or people will think twice about opening companies in your jurisdiction. There's a reason pretty much all the new fortune 500 companies created in the last few decades are not from the EU.

Why exactly is it that the quality of a society is measured by how many big companies they have? Does Philip Morris contribute to society or detract from it? Can we dispense with the notion that big companies inherently improve society? Letting go of this does not imply you are a communist, regardless of how many seem to think so. You can believe that society achieves better outcomes by having tighter rules of play, rather than an anything goes mentality. Yes it makes it harder to create megacorps with billions upon billions of revenue. And so what?

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Post by gdprwhat »

> It also found that the “family pairing” scheme, which gives an adult control over a child’s account settings, did not check whether the adult “paired” with the child user was a parent or guardian.

How exactly are TikTok meant to be verify parents? Are other tech companies expected to verify parents? It seems like no one else is being fined for this?

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by hef19898 »

personomas wrote: post #266
dylan604 wrote: post #259

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i think it's deranged that you feel privacy violations are minor in any form. also, this isn't a first offense

Data privacy violations are certainly minor. Until we get that through, our companies are going to suffer. We have far, far, far greater problems in the world than privacy issues of usually meaningless data.

Data privacy is a paramount concern in free democracies. But of course you don't get that.

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Post by generic92034 »

throwaway74902 wrote: post #192
generic92034 wrote: post #181

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> Also, since SAP as a company isn't handling any of that data, SAP isn't really affected. I am not sure that is completely correct, considering SAP's cloud offerings.

If I run my app on Azure, is Microsoft responsible for me breaking GDPR? SAP runs your instance, but isn't responsible for what you do with it.

https://www.sap.com/about/trust-center/data-privacy.html#act...

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by generic92034 »

hef19898 wrote: post #183
generic92034 wrote: post #181

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> Also, since SAP as a company isn't handling any of that data, SAP isn't really affected. I am not sure that is completely correct, considering SAP's cloud offerings.

With EU based servers? Sure, GDPR applies. But so far I didn't hear anything about SAP not being compliant.

That is correct, as far as I know. I was just objecting to SAP not being responsible for any PII data of their customers, in all cases.

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Post by jiofj »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #217
wooger wrote: post #194

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An appropriate punishment would be: All children's accounts must be deleted and no new ones for minors allowed to exist for 2 years. Any further infringement and the App is banned from the EU.

This would require all TikTok users to submit selfie + ID for verification and all those who don't would need to be assumed to be children and have their accounts deleted, right?

That's how it already works for youtube. The EU mandated you need to prove to google that you are of age to watch certain videos.
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