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RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

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Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

#51
Not a fan of JetBrains names. RustRover is too easy to misspell to RustLover. Which is too close to LustLover!

But anyway, I'm kind of lost with this news, because I'm using paid CLion for both C++ and Rust, and it seems now I will need to buy another IDE (because they will probably discontinue the free rust plugin).

Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

#52
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I hope the Bazel plugin works with this. And I hope there is at least one Jetbrains IDE where I can work on C++, Python and Rust at the same time.

Talking about bazel (or buck, etc.), I wish there was a JetBrains IDE that supports all languages.

That would be “Fleet” (https://www.jetbrains.com/fleet/)., which is still in early preview.

I tried it out 3 or 4 months ago, and I didn’t find it useful, nor familiar - kind of feels like a VSCode wannabe.

It was disappointing to see, as I am really tired of running multiple IDEs to work on mixed language projects.

Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

#53

This IDE doesn't seem to differ from CLion with Rust plugin. I guess, its only about making Rust plugin paid from their side – which makes sense from their side. I hope they can deliver quality. On the other hand, they are notoriously slow to develop their IDEs. Features are super slow to be delivered, IDEs themselves are not really improved as well. They are focusing on things most don't care: Spaces, new UI project…

> They are focusing on things most don't care

Different product teams work on different plugins/IDEs. Though, it's apparent that the more popular languages (Python/Java/JS/.NET/Go) get more enhancements. Makes sense for Jetbrains though because those languages provide them more revenue with a larger user base.

> Spaces, new UI project

Jetbrains Spaces is Jetbrains branching out into SaaS. The new UI work has been going on since as long as I remember. They're always tweaking the UI, but that's the norm in the industry.

Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

#54

This IDE doesn't seem to differ from CLion with Rust plugin. I guess, its only about making Rust plugin paid from their side – which makes sense from their side. I hope they can deliver quality. On the other hand, they are notoriously slow to develop their IDEs. Features are super slow to be delivered, IDEs themselves are not really improved as well. They are focusing on things most don't care: Spaces, new UI project…

> new UI project

It’s incredible to me how many people choose VS Code because of its aesthetics, so it is by all means the right thing to focus on.

Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

#55
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's how all their IDEs work. It's all the same software with different sets of allowed plugins. I would also argue that their IDEs are largely mature, feature-complete software. I'm quite happy they haven't succumbed to the modern trend of reorganize all the menus every 6 months.

> largely mature, feature-complete software Depends on the language. I use mostly Scala and Rust and both have significant issues still with incorrect syntax highlighting, refactoring being limited and slowness with larger projects.

And both are offered as a free plug-in, not a dedicated IDE or Idea Ultimate offering.

Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

#56

Not a fan of JetBrains names. RustRover is too easy to misspell to RustLover. Which is too close to LustLover! But anyway, I'm kind of lost with this news, because I'm using paid CLion for both C++ and Rust, and it seems now I will need to buy another IDE (because they will probably discontinue the free rust plugin).

> RustRover is too easy to misspell to RustLover. Which is too close to LustLover!

Uuh… sure, buddy. Just make sure to never mention it to anyone outside internet, ok?

Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

#57

This IDE doesn't seem to differ from CLion with Rust plugin. I guess, its only about making Rust plugin paid from their side – which makes sense from their side. I hope they can deliver quality. On the other hand, they are notoriously slow to develop their IDEs. Features are super slow to be delivered, IDEs themselves are not really improved as well. They are focusing on things most don't care: Spaces, new UI project…

> On the other hand, they are notoriously slow to develop their IDEs.

I found that IntelliJ IDEs for me are almost at the perfection level. I don't really need any new changes, except for simple incremental ones like supporting new languages.

I've been using IntelliJ since 2003, and it's amazing how little my main workflows have changed since then.

Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

#59
post #57

This IDE doesn't seem to differ from CLion with Rust plugin. I guess, its only about making Rust plugin paid from their side – which makes sense from their side. I hope they can deliver quality. On the other hand, they are notoriously slow to develop their IDEs. Features are super slow to be delivered, IDEs themselves are not really improved as well. They are focusing on things most don't care: Spaces, new UI project…

> On the other hand, they are notoriously slow to develop their IDEs. I found that IntelliJ IDEs for me are almost at the perfection level. I don't really need any new changes, except for simple incremental ones like supporting new languages. I've been using IntelliJ since 2003, and it's amazing how little my main workflows have changed since then.

My worst nightmare is JetBrains gets IPO (or acquired by a public traded corp).

Re: RustRover – A standalone Rust IDE

#60

This IDE doesn't seem to differ from CLion with Rust plugin. I guess, its only about making Rust plugin paid from their side – which makes sense from their side. I hope they can deliver quality. On the other hand, they are notoriously slow to develop their IDEs. Features are super slow to be delivered, IDEs themselves are not really improved as well. They are focusing on things most don't care: Spaces, new UI project…

> new UI project It’s incredible to me how many people choose VS Code because of its aesthetics, so it is by all means the right thing to focus on.

That's really interesting. What makes VSCode's aesthetic so distinctive and appealing? As an infrequent user of it, I don't really see how it stands out. (The main things that stand out about it to me as an Emacs user is that it has pop-ups/nags/splash tabs that I have to dismiss whenever I open it.)
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