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Because slow-cooking your brain is a bad thing?
Or maybe because possibly interfering the operation of other electrical devices, that have only been tested to operate with certain levels of external interference; is a bad thing!
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> France has a huge "cellular EM waves are bad" movement What ?
Maybe it's just my own perception but it is one of the more widespread "out there" belief in France. It's even supported by national agencies, see my other comment.
I love my Apple Watch ultra, because with cellular I can use it as a phone – a very lightweight phone without social media distractions. But I have to say I am a little bit uneasy about having a cellphone strapped to my arm. Someone with physics knowledge please calm me down?
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230912-france-orders-ap...
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/electromagn....
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They won’t get the contract from the OEM if they aren’t known for getting the results the OEM wants. Seems that with qualified people conducting the test they’d be out of business.
Could the exact same thing be said about whomever the French are hiring? They want to have findings or else all the money they spent ensuring compliance is effectively wasted.
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I believe the concern is that non-ionizing radiation can still warm tissues, and depending on the frequency, these can be deeper than what normal sunlight or IR radiation would reach. Whether a few milliwats of that type of warming are actually cause for concern I don't know, but even if it's bogus, that doesn't mean that regulators will not be enforcing legal maximums anyway.
https://neurosciencenews.com/cellphone-radiation-brain-cance... >In 1996, the Federal Communications Commission, or FCC, adopted exposure guidelines that limited the intensity of exposure to radiofrequency radiation. These guidelines were designed to prevent significant heating of tissue from short-term exposure to radiofrequency radiation, not to protect us from the effects of long-term exposure to low levels of mod…
> The difference is the kind of microwave radiation each device emits. With regard to cellphones and Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, there is an information-gathering component. The waves are modulated and pulsed in a very different manner than your microwave oven.
What is an "information-gathering component"? What does that have to do with pulsed emitters and (averaged) EIRP values, which definitely is a thing for some, but not all of the mentioned transmission technologies: Especially 3G and some versions of Wi-Fi use DSSS or other spread-spectrum techniques which are not pulsed, unlike TDMA.
I could even see an argument being made for "pulsing" making a difference and maybe another measure than the EIRP being needed (just like how the linear-no-threshold model for the effects of radiation on organisms might be a simplification of what's actually going on), but then it doesn't help to just throw a bunch of wildly different wireless technologies, using greatly varying transmission powers from 10 mW to 2000 mW, into a single bag and call them "very different from microwave ovens" without describing what that means.
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Not right, but influential on EU regulators. Hopefully EU citizens find such results as a mark of shame rather than pride and move towards fact-based policy. Emotion-based policy is dangerous.
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It's the same type of radiation as sunlight, but lower energy and lower intensity.
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> France has a huge "cellular EM waves are bad" movement What ?
I don't know the spread of this movement but it does exist. For example, the national electric company deployed a new generation of electric meter (Linky) which can communicate data to your supplier using PLC. This communication of course emits EM waves so some people objected to the installation of this meter.
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By knowing high-school physics?
I don’t doubt that there has been extensive testing on radiation but knowing exactly which atoms and molecules are essential for the human body to sustain life and the corresponding energy levels at which those atoms and molecules ionize is probably outside the scope of high school physics.
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5G panic was absolutely not limited to the US, honestly it's probably more prevalent in France, the UK, and Australia
It even predates 5G by a long shot, I recall anecdotes running the news headlines about some folks claiming newly installed (2G? 3G?) cell towers were causing them debilitating headaches, and covering walls and windows with tin foil made it better. It was later revealed that while the tower was indeed up it was entirely unpowered the whole time but that bit of news of course did not make it to the headlines.
Having 2 doctor parents and some amount of experience in the field of hypnosis, I can say these sort of things happen all the time to people.
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Well if it was for the "cellular EM waves are bad" movement as you put it they would have a problem with most cellular phones and not specifically with the iPhone 12 don't you think?
It's affecting lots of phones. "Smartphone radiation tests have so far led to 42 sales stops in the country. It is the first time Apple has been affected by such a move." From https://www.reuters.com/technology/apple-disputes-french-fin...