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#121
Slide 2 says it all: business model = speed, innovation, customer obsession.

Worker safety not only isn't priority #1 -- it's completely absent !!!

Let alone the broader concept of employee "well-being."

Think about it: large employers of course optimize employee happiness and turnover ("regrettable losses"). Like Henry Ford reducing parts cost until the car breaks down uniformly [1], companies like Amazon and Walmart reduce pay/benefits and working conditions, until they cannot recruit enough workers.

This is why we have labor laws and why unions exist.

Re: Amazon training video on handling unionizing activity (2018) [video]

#122
post #7

> Living Wage is a Union Word. Wait what ?!?

Paying you more than the absolute minimum is not in the interests of our Customers, Shareholders, Associates, Shareholders and our Shareholders.

It all reminds me of the TTRPG Paranoia:

"SERVE THE COMPUTER. THE COMPUTER IS YOUR FRIEND! The Computer wants you to be happy. II you are not happy, you may be used as reactor shielding. The Computer is crazy. The Computer is happy. The Computer will help you become happy. This will drive you crazy. Being a citizen of Alpha Complex is fun. The Computer says so, and The Computer is your friend. Rooting out traitors will make you happy. The Computer tells you so. Can you doubt The Computer?"

Re: Amazon training video on handling unionizing activity (2018) [video]

#124

What a beautiful example of propaganda, in the truest sense of the term. The guitar intro is folksy, the guy is warm and lovely, and _excited_ to have us at this training.... it's about your "success". Success of course, is not getting fired for being a collaborator with counter-revolutionary "associates" who reject Generalissimo Uberführer Bezos inspired vision and "history making" five year masterplan for "direct w…

The Museum of Neoliberalism, perhaps?

https://www.spellingmistakescostlives.com/museumofneoliberal...

Re: Amazon training video on handling unionizing activity (2018) [video]

#125
post #25

I have so many ambivalent feelings about the whole IT / Silicon Valley sector. Although many people are interested and even passionate about technology, I feel we can’t look away from the bigger picture in which it operates. I support a startup - that wants to ethical - on AWS, owned by a union buster that exploits people and - like many other companies - gets rich through wage theft. Airbnb has been a negative influ…

> Airbnb has been a negative influence on the housing market airbnb exposed the fact the societies are full of nimbys and politicians are useless. all while providing a good alternative to hotels. > Uber, well, do I even need to discuss that one? uber is amazing. it completely undercut the monopolies of the taxi companies. it provides an amazing service at a reasonable price. > our centuries old nemesis: Capitalism.…

> while providing a good alternative to hotels.

This was true for a couple of years before Airbnb renters realized they could bait-and-switch customers with fees at checkout.

I will never forget making it to the checkout for an Airbnb in Memphis, seeing a $200 "service fee" (for one night!), going back, then checking the reviews and seeing that there wasn't a functioning toilet.

> Uber, well, do I even need to discuss that one?

Getting shoehorned into the back of a Kia Rio is NOT "amazing service" relative to a Crown Vic with a privacy divider.

Re: Amazon training video on handling unionizing activity (2018) [video]

#126
“Living wage”, “grievance”, and “contract” are so-called “union words” according to this training.

My mouth is agape.

These are words and phrases I openly use with colleagues in exactly the setting the video implies and I’m an non-unionised office worker.

Maybe that means I’m itching for a union? /s

Re: Amazon training video on handling unionizing activity (2018) [video]

#127
It's a pretty rare company that wants unions. If you are running a business, you don't want to be forced into paying above-market wages, or to have disciplinary measures blocked for certain classes of employees [1], or to effectively pay protection money to a new set of bosses in an outside organization. It's really just losses all the way down. That any company would resist this should not be shocking.

Obviously, a typical guy working in a warehouse would be smart to vote for unionization, because why wouldn't he want more money and a lower probability of being fired? The chance of the place completely shuttering in the future is, for him, the big risk. (This is why public employee unions are the big survivors--the shuttering never happens.)

But I'll tell you, actually working with unions will put a stink on the whole concept. It seems like most people have a "unions=good" presumption and derive all their other views from that.

[1] That is, if an employee would normally be fired for incompetence or misconduct, a strong union would typically prevent it.

Re: Amazon training video on handling unionizing activity (2018) [video]

#128

This is beyond disgusting, and definitely not acceptable. So much for being "the world's best employer". I want to dig a hole and bury myself from the embarrassment of being associated with this company.

> So much for being "the world's best employer".

wut, you actually bought that until just now?

Re: Amazon training video on handling unionizing activity (2018) [video]

#129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait until you learn what happens to returned packages.

Wait, what happens to returned packages? Now I'm curious about that too.

They force the "associates" to unpack them and file lots of paper work. 30% suffer paper cuts. 20% are reported to CCP for complaining about "cheap Chinese crap" and of these many end up in Chinese gulags making the amazon Dick sign stickers against their will. And 5% must attend "Jeff and Andy"'s seminar on Capitalism with Amazonian Characteristics sessions. 5 individuals last year were hospitalized with PTSD after these sessions which included self-criticism of the workers and enumerating the exceptional leadership characteristics of Amazon's central committee.

Re: Amazon training video on handling unionizing activity (2018) [video]

#130

I wonder where they find the guys selling their voice like that. Not that there is a high bar in advertising, but this is on another level.

They can just use VALL-E or ElevenLabs to clone somebody's voice and let AI talk over these points. Trivial.
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