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iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

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Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

#101

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OTOH, the French regulator publishing a product removal from market ON THE DAY of the marketing PR for the new iPhone is a distasteful attempt at raining on their parade.

I honestly doubt literally anyone in the government cares about Apple marketing

“The government” is big. Lots of people, caring about lots of things. Did you want to be less absolute in your claim?

Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

#102
post #77

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The other side is funded and heavily influenced by the ”buy our Goji berries to shield your body from toxins and our shielding bracelet to stop harmful radiation from altering your chakras” quacks. There are no neutral parties in the argument

Guess who's more likely to have the funds to do proper propaganda.

The US government has the funds to sponsor all of your neighbors. They could conspire with the US government to pretend like they go to work every day, so that they fool you, who are the only sucker in your neighborhood whose life isn't getting paid by the US government.

I honestly don't think it matters who has funds to do what... :) The "natural health" industry is a multi-billion dollar industry as well, and is a much more insidious than the telco industry if you ask me.

Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

#103
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The other side is funded and heavily influenced by the ”buy our Goji berries to shield your body from toxins and our shielding bracelet to stop harmful radiation from altering your chakras” quacks. There are no neutral parties in the argument

Guess who's more likely to have the funds to do proper propaganda.

Guess which side is more susceptible to low-quality propaganda.

Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

#104

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> The EU isn't a super-state and EU law isn't applied by some overarching entity Yes-and-no: the EU Commission serves as the "executive branch" ( Americanisms... ) of the EU, and while the EU isn't a true federal superstate union yet , but there's enough similarities that the EU Commission probably does 80% of the work it would be doing if the EU were. While the majority of EU directives are enforced by member states…

The EU is not and never (on human time scales) will be, as there is no appetite for a federal union in many member states and unanimity would be required.

Anything can happen in the same way as it happened with Maastricht and the Euro: cooperating countries would just go forward with new entities that inherit the previous institutions, dissolving or mothballing old entities. In the long run, the hard core inevitably wins.

Anything that includes France, Germany, Italy, and Spain, will inevitably drag everyone else one way or another.

Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

#105

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> The EU isn't a super-state and EU law isn't applied by some overarching entity Yes-and-no: the EU Commission serves as the "executive branch" ( Americanisms... ) of the EU, and while the EU isn't a true federal superstate union yet , but there's enough similarities that the EU Commission probably does 80% of the work it would be doing if the EU were. While the majority of EU directives are enforced by member states…

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You missed your chance then - treaties already require member countries to defer to European rules where conflicting.

Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

#108
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Aspartame is still fine, and it is one of the most researched substances. This type of reasoning, that you are using, is down right unscientific, conspiratorial, and dangerous. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/aspartame-and-cancer/

How is it "unscientific" when we know they are 99.99% unrelated, but you want at least 99.99999% to feel safe? Aspartame, unlike sugar, are non-essential. If somebody don't want to take that 0.000000001% risk, I guess they should be free to make their choice?

Sugar is non-essential as the body can synthesize carbohydrates through gluconeogenesis.

Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

#109

Wait so the phones cause cancer people were right?

That is still an ongoing debate [1] and one side of the argument is heavily influenced and funded by the telecom industry [2]. [1] https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/r... [2] https://news.berkeley.edu/2021/07/01/health-risks-of-cell-ph...

one side of the "debate" seem to be taken solely by Joel Moskowitz, who's cited in every article that promotes the message of "phone radiation is harmful"
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