Does this mean it's now illegal to sell your used iPhone 12?
Yes. Remember Dieselgate? BMW had to recall cars. Apple have to recall iPhone12.
iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Very roughly, yes it is. 1-(4/5.74) = 30.3% It is possible however that this SAR violation only applies to certain bands or that the cell tower already is requesting a lower transmit power. Therefore there is a good chance users don't see much impact.
?? where are you getting that equation from ?? Linked to SNR, maybe, but that's not the same thing as max TX power unless you're standing right at the edge of the cell.
Not parent, just asking the same question.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon%E2%80%93Hartley_theore...
There's a log here, so it doesn't even seem linear to SNR.
Would SNR increase linearly to TX power?
I don't know.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not right, but influential on EU regulators. Hopefully EU citizens find such results as a mark of shame rather than pride and move towards fact-based policy. Emotion-based policy is dangerous.
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Aspartame was totally fine until Coca Cola decided to switch to stevia.
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#66Wait so the phones cause cancer people were right?
That is still an ongoing debate [1] and one side of the argument is heavily influenced and funded by the telecom industry [2].
[1]https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/r... [2]https://news.berkeley.edu/2021/07/01/health-risks-of-cell-ph...
Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation
#67Why did it take them so long to check the device? The iPhone 12 has been sold since 2020, so 3 years. They probably can't check every model released, but this is one of the most sold devices. If it was actually dangerous it would have been great to know it as soon as it got released, it's not some obscure product that no one heard of on the French market.
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#68Damn that's dangerous level of radiation, why this was only discovered recently?
In what way do you think it is dangerous? Spoiler alert; it's not.
The main reason there are such power limits is because electrical devices are tested to withstand certain levels of interference from external sources.
Mobile phone vary their transmitting power depending on how close they are to the tower, so they do not jam other signals and it allows them to save power. Most of the time they are operating at a fraction of their peak power, where maximum power output is only used to ping towers when signal is lost.
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Aspartame is still fine, and it is one of the most researched substances. This type of reasoning, that you are using, is down right unscientific, conspiratorial, and dangerous. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/aspartame-and-cancer/
Darwinian law of self selection will take its course
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
No it's not. This is non-ionizing radiation.
Yes and where can we verify this?
Linked from the post: https://www.anfr.fr/maitriser/equipements-radioelectriques/l...
"These limit values result from the work of the International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection, ICNIRP. In 1998, the ICNIRP ruled in view of the state of available scientific knowledge and only retained the proven effects of exposure to waves, in particular the heating of tissues."
The regulation specifies a test that measures frequencies up to only 10GHz, which is far below ionizing radiation frequencies.