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iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

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Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

#31

You're absorbing the radiation wrong.

I'd suggest standing under the sun, great way to absorb radiation :).

I think the parent comment was poking fun at apple telling consumers they were holding the phones wrong, back when the case was part of the antenna and calls would drop.

Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very roughly, yes it is. 1-(4/5.74) = 30.3% It is possible however that this SAR violation only applies to certain bands or that the cell tower already is requesting a lower transmit power. Therefore there is a good chance users don't see much impact.

As someone who bought a 1k+$ phone from Apple i would be pissed if they dropped upload speed by that much. Surely there has to be an SLA that they have to uphold. No?

> Surely there has to be an SLA that they have to uphold.

What makes you think that?

Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

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Why only the french market then? Shouldn't they withdraw from all EU markets?

Individual countries within the EU have their own regulators who make their own enforcement decisions. The EU isn't a super-state and EU law isn't applied by some overarching entity. On a technical level, each country ratifies and applies their own laws in their own ways. Given this, other countries could act on this too, but it's the French regulator who has chosen to do so.

> The EU isn't a super-state and EU law isn't applied by some overarching entity

Yes-and-no: the EU Commission serves as the "executive branch" (Americanisms...) of the EU, and while the EU isn't a true federal superstate union yet, but there's enough similarities that the EU Commission probably does 80% of the work it would be doing if the EU were.

While the majority of EU directives are enforced by member states, the EU can enforce itself via several routes (e.g. there is now an EU public prosecution, and the EU parliament can vote to apply sanctions on its own members for non-compliance (e.g. Hungary).

Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

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Does this mean it's now illegal to sell your used iPhone 12?

Yes. Remember Dieselgate? BMW had to recall cars. Apple have to recall iPhone12.

Not yet. They just can't sell them anymore (even used ones). Recall will only occur if Apple doesn't provide any mitigating measures.

Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

#39

Apple might be able to fix this by asking the user if they're using a case, Anyone using a case thicker than ~2mm will probably sufficiently reduce the surface SAR to bring it into compliance. One might imagine a software update that asks if you're using a case. If you choose yes, nothing happens. If you choose no, then peak transmit power is reduced by 1dB (which will reduce upload speeds ~20%, and may reduce range…

If you’re using an Apple case, you might not even get prompted, as the communicate their identity to the phone already (to show their color on screen).

Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

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Apple has denied those findings. > Apple said it had provided ANFR with multiple Apple and independent third-party lab results proving its compliance with all applicable SAR regulations and standards in the world. https://www.reuters.com/technology/apple-disputes-french-fin...

This doesn't surprise me. It's not unusual to find completely different results from "accredited" labs despite the test methodologies being the same.
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