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iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

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Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

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post #15

Why only the french market then? Shouldn't they withdraw from all EU markets?

Individual countries within the EU have their own regulators who make their own enforcement decisions.

The EU isn't a super-state and EU law isn't applied by some overarching entity. On a technical level, each country ratifies and applies their own laws in their own ways.

Given this, other countries could act on this too, but it's the French regulator who has chosen to do so.

Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

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Apple has denied those findings.

> Apple said it had provided ANFR with multiple Apple and independent third-party lab results proving its compliance with all applicable SAR regulations and standards in the world.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/apple-disputes-french-fin...

Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

#23
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Upload speed is not a linear function of TX power?

Very roughly, yes it is. 1-(4/5.74) = 30.3% It is possible however that this SAR violation only applies to certain bands or that the cell tower already is requesting a lower transmit power. Therefore there is a good chance users don't see much impact.

As someone who bought a 1k+$ phone from Apple i would be pissed if they dropped upload speed by that much. Surely there has to be an SLA that they have to uphold. No?

Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Upload speed is not a linear function of TX power?

Very roughly, yes it is. 1-(4/5.74) = 30.3% It is possible however that this SAR violation only applies to certain bands or that the cell tower already is requesting a lower transmit power. Therefore there is a good chance users don't see much impact.

?? where are you getting that equation from ??

Linked to SNR, maybe, but that's not the same thing as max TX power unless you're standing right at the edge of the cell.

Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very roughly, yes it is. 1-(4/5.74) = 30.3% It is possible however that this SAR violation only applies to certain bands or that the cell tower already is requesting a lower transmit power. Therefore there is a good chance users don't see much impact.

As someone who bought a 1k+$ phone from Apple i would be pissed if they dropped upload speed by that much. Surely there has to be an SLA that they have to uphold. No?

They can't guarantee anything at all, and data link speeds are at best the responsibility of your carrier.

Re: iPhone 12 withdrawn from French market for non-compliance with EU regulation

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post #15

Why only the french market then? Shouldn't they withdraw from all EU markets?

EU Directives have three stages:

- EU ratification - national implementation - national enforcement

The ratification is typically accompanied by an implementation deadline (usually in years) so there'll be cases of some countries following EU regs earlier than others.

Finally there's enforcement which is entirely in the hands of nation states pretty much - just because something is written in statute doesn't necessarily always translate to actual action.

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