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New world record with an electric racing car: From 0 to 100 in 0.956 seconds

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Re: New world record with an electric racing car: From 0 to 100 in 0.956 seconds

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Something weird about this is that humans very often ascribe the sensation of d^ns/dt^n, to feeling d^n-1s/dt^n-1. So people will say that something which accelerates quickly is 'fast'. Or they will say, when they feel themselves initially being pressed back into their seat as a plane starts its takeoff roll, that they are experiencing 'acceleration' when what they are experiencing is actually jerk. The thing is, you…

>The thing is, you can't actually feel motion at a constant speed In a vacuum. If you roll the window down, or if the atmosphere starts ablating you into a hot plasma then you may realize you're going very fast.

Oh cmon, who rolls down the windows in an airplane? ;)

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Huh the Nick Mason credited with being a McLaren F1 owner is the drummer from Pink Floyd.

Suddenly I remember a Top Gear episode where Nick Mason drops off his F1 (maybe it was a Ferrari Enzo?) at the test track, then his personal helicopter lands on the strip, picks him up, and flies him out of the scene, all while "Money" by Pink Floyd plays in the background.

Enzo. That was a good episode.

https://youtu.be/f7jsauspMmU?si=MDEr2B1uHq4FT-oh

The interview where they talk about his book is entertaining as well.

Re: New world record with an electric racing car: From 0 to 100 in 0.956 seconds

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You might be the only person on the planet who's witnessed several of those, if you mean first-hand.

They're still incredibly dangerous. Even with all the safety guards you've got 50-300hp being directed to a free-space shaft. When we got a mower we went with a flail mower because we'd be mowing near neighbors and a bush hog(giant lawnmower blade style mower) will happily pick up a rock and send it with enough force to easily kill someone at a good distance. Flails tend to throw less things(which is why highway main…

Early tractor PTOs where especially, um, fun. No built-in overrunning clutch and no "live" PTO means the inertia of spinning implements could turn the PTO, and thus the drive wheels. Nothing like standing on the brakes while the tractor just...keeps going for a few feet.

Fortunately overrunning clutch attachments are cheap to add.

Re: New world record with an electric racing car: From 0 to 100 in 0.956 seconds

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Speed = ∫(acceleration) dt

Sure, but once you have speed you can use aerodynamics to get grip (e.g., F1 cars). So this is really only relevant if you need acceleration from low speed.

F1 has featured a car that used a fan to generate downforce.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brabham_BT46

An issue with aero features (other than not producing their effects at low speed) is their ability to stall. Ground effect was especially dangerous (back when high-ground-effect designs were allowed) because if it stalls during a high speed corner (say from driving over a bump, like a kerb maybe) you can instantaneously lose a huge amount of downforce, which is obviously quite dangerous.

Re: New world record with an electric racing car: From 0 to 100 in 0.956 seconds

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These cars stem from the Formula Student, which since 2022 has re-allowed the previously forbidden "powered ground effect". But this car has an upgraded battery and powertrain beyond what the rules allow and they maybe also use tire warmers and potentially rubber/glue on the launch surface/tires

A photo shows them using tire warmers and they're running Hoosiers, which are incredibly sticky tires. I have no idea what you're on about with "rubber/glue on the launch surface/tires." That's not a Thing.

It is a thing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ1_TrackBite

Re: New world record with an electric racing car: From 0 to 100 in 0.956 seconds

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Derivatives of relative displacement as defined by a distance metric in a [e.g. metric tensor] space: Length = Point2 - Point1 Length * Time^-1 = Velocity or Speed Length * Time^-2 = Acceleration Length * Time^-3 = Jerk Length * Time^-4 = Snap or Jounce Length * Time^-5 = Crackle Length * Time^-6 = Pop Displacement (geometry) > Derivatives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_(geometry)#Deriva... Fourth, fifth…

Something weird about this is that humans very often ascribe the sensation of d^ns/dt^n, to feeling d^n-1s/dt^n-1. So people will say that something which accelerates quickly is 'fast'. Or they will say, when they feel themselves initially being pressed back into their seat as a plane starts its takeoff roll, that they are experiencing 'acceleration' when what they are experiencing is actually jerk. The thing is, you…

Hmmm, from a Newtonian perspective I would have argued (or at least my personal impression is) the only thing we actually perceive is force (i.e. acceleration). All the situations you described are just (higher-order) changes of acceleration and even if you give them a name: At the end of the day, the only thing that matters to our bodies is the force.

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The impressive thing to me is the level of traction needed to do something like this. It seems they're taking old tricks and building a "sucker car". https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/a32350/jim-hall-cha... Still neat stuff. Race sanctioning bodies will need to update their rules or these will just be one off bragging rights.

Then there's the Brabham BT46 "Fan car" that actually raced in F1. Once. Before it was banned. :-) https://youtu.be/B294RfWj1QE?si=jxYpIgwtH44at6Bq

It was "voluntarily" withdrawn after one race, even though it wasn't contrary to the rules

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Something weird about this is that humans very often ascribe the sensation of d^ns/dt^n, to feeling d^n-1s/dt^n-1. So people will say that something which accelerates quickly is 'fast'. Or they will say, when they feel themselves initially being pressed back into their seat as a plane starts its takeoff roll, that they are experiencing 'acceleration' when what they are experiencing is actually jerk. The thing is, you…

>The thing is, you can't actually feel motion at a constant speed In a vacuum. If you roll the window down, or if the atmosphere starts ablating you into a hot plasma then you may realize you're going very fast.

Then you're experiencing acceleration, just in the opposite direction.

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Depends on how fast you can release that energy from the batteries. Not as instant. Chemical explosions are rapid.

They could boost with super capacitors.

Super capacitors are highly overrated by the general public. They really aren't that much better than lithium ion except for in a very narrow power/time bandwidth.
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