The rent in Ireland is insane for the quality you get. My GF and I are currently living in my parents house. Collectively we earn ~€200K. New homes are in limited supply. Existing homes are poor quality but demand has increased the prices dramatically. We were looking at a new development and they increased the price by €80K. For a lot of people owning a home is
becoming unrealistic.
Show HN: Rental data supplied by tenants in Ireland, searchable by all
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#22This is about Ireland, but I'm curious whether there is any country in the world that does require this sort of transparency.
Berkeley, CA has one. The rest of California doesn't yet, but there are some attempts to do it. Keyword is "rental registry".
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#23I moved from Dublin to NYC. Yes the rents here are insane, but there are places to rent! There is often zero availability in Irish cities.
Zero availability would indicate either severe supply shortages due to an inability to build (zoning/regulatory problems a la some municipalities in the US? Something else?) or a price ceiling on rent, leading to an inability for the market to clear (with the equilibrium price being above the legal ceiling). Do you know which applies? As an outsider, it would seem that Ireland has plenty of land on which to build, th…
Ireland and the UK have the worst planning processes in the world leading to worse housing crises than even California. Having zoning would imply that it's legal to do something somewhere, which it basically isn't.
In particular the Irish think their island is full of "nature" (when it's actually open fields because the British deforested all of it) and become ecofascists when you suggest any of it could be a building. (Or just regular ones since they think you'll want to put African immigrants in the building. Someone suggested this on Twitter last week and I've never seen so many replies afraid of "Somalis".)
This is why more Irish live in America than in Ireland and the population is lower than it was in the 1800s.
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#24This is about Ireland, but I'm curious whether there is any country in the world that does require this sort of transparency.
Not a country, but the City of Santa Monica, California, keeps a registry of rents for all rent-controlled units. Landlords are required to report an initial tenancy, which sets the starting rent. Each year after that, the City tells the landlord what the "Maximum Allowed Rent" is. All the documents relating to each property are publicly available and the city publishes an annual report.
Not all cities with rent control keep such a registry. (e.g., Los Angeles doesn't keep a registry, but does tell landlords the maximum they can raise the rent each year.)
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#25I moved from Dublin to NYC. Yes the rents here are insane, but there are places to rent! There is often zero availability in Irish cities.
Zero availability would indicate either severe supply shortages due to an inability to build (zoning/regulatory problems a la some municipalities in the US? Something else?) or a price ceiling on rent, leading to an inability for the market to clear (with the equilibrium price being above the legal ceiling). Do you know which applies? As an outsider, it would seem that Ireland has plenty of land on which to build, th…
In Ireland's case, both apply - there's an inability to build and there's defacto rent caps. Plus until very recently, an eviction ban.
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#26Culver City, USA made an attempt at displaying Rents charged by landlords: https://medium.com/@hughfitzgerald/rents-charged-by-landlord...
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Zero availability would indicate either severe supply shortages due to an inability to build (zoning/regulatory problems a la some municipalities in the US? Something else?) or a price ceiling on rent, leading to an inability for the market to clear (with the equilibrium price being above the legal ceiling). Do you know which applies? As an outsider, it would seem that Ireland has plenty of land on which to build, th…
Ireland and the UK have the worst planning processes in the world leading to worse housing crises than even California. Having zoning would imply that it's legal to do something somewhere, which it basically isn't. In particular the Irish think their island is full of "nature" (when it's actually open fields because the British deforested all of it) and become ecofascists when you suggest any of it could be a buildin…
Not famine then?
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ireland and the UK have the worst planning processes in the world leading to worse housing crises than even California. Having zoning would imply that it's legal to do something somewhere, which it basically isn't. In particular the Irish think their island is full of "nature" (when it's actually open fields because the British deforested all of it) and become ecofascists when you suggest any of it could be a buildin…
Not famine then?
That's been over for a while. They can't move back because there's nowhere to live.
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#29I moved from Dublin to NYC. Yes the rents here are insane, but there are places to rent! There is often zero availability in Irish cities.
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#30This might backfire. Large scale landlords and would be tenants are both pretty familiar with the market. The only people not familiar with the market are mom and pop landlords who tend to not update rent with changing market conditions. This increased transparency might cause them to raise rents because it'd be easier to do comps, and they wouldn't previously undercharging a tenant to make it harder to find a new te…
It's not that hard to figure out what people are charging for a similar unit today, especially in a larger market where a high percentage of listings are online. Some mom and pop landlords (including myself) prioritize for having sustainable, enjoyable tenants. The gold standard is a tenant who requires little upkeep, pays on time, and stays for a long time. I won't increase the rent on tenants who are easy to work w…
> mom and pop landlords
If one was looking for such a landlord, what should they be looking for on the listing? Is there a common place where you might choose to list a rental that's not as frequently used by big players?