Show HN: Rental data supplied by tenants in Ireland, searchable by all • Hacker News Board

JamesBarney wrote: post #4

This might backfire. Large scale landlords and would be tenants are both pretty familiar with the market. The only people not familiar with the market are mom and pop landlords who tend to not update rent with changing market conditions. This increased transparency might cause them to raise rents because it'd be easier to do comps, and they wouldn't previously undercharging a tenant to make it harder to find a new te…

It's not that hard to figure out what people are charging for a similar unit today, especially in a larger market where a high percentage of listings are online.

Some mom and pop landlords (including myself) prioritize for having sustainable, enjoyable tenants. The gold standard is a tenant who requires little upkeep, pays on time, and stays for a long time. I won't increase the rent on tenants who are easy to work with.

If a new prospective tenant asked why the price is going up, I'd explain that it's the going market rate, and they're welcome to find another place. I doubt transparency would change anything when listing prices are already public and rarely negotiable

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Post by elictronic » Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 6:19 PM UTC

BlackjackCF wrote: post #9

falcor84 wrote: post #3

This is about Ireland, but I'm curious whether there is any country in the world that does require this sort of transparency.

Not that I’m aware of, though it would be nice. I get why though. I moved to Dublin from the US (from an expensive part of California) and I was shocked by the rent. It was more expensive than apartments I was paying for in the US, but Irish software wages are a fraction of what you’d get in the US.

I am a little surprised by this. Are you sure you were comparing similiar styles and areas. Looking around online Dublin looks to be 26% cheaper than San Francisco. Rent for a single person is quite a bit lower and even rent for a family shows it to be lower but not by as much? I just glanced at https://livingcost.org/cost/dublin/san-francisco so not sure how accurate those style calculators are and is the cause of my questioning your statement.

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Post by dang » Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 6:20 PM UTC

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 6:20 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #16

GenericDev wrote: post #2

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. You may not owe rampant capitalistic behaviour better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site m…

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Post by metaphor » Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 6:21 PM UTC

Have you caught anyone attempting to poison the well yet?

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Post by messe » Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 6:34 PM UTC

GenericDev wrote: post #2

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This overly simplifies things, especially in regards to Ireland's housing market, and ignores the fact that our construction sector is still yet to recover after the 2008 crash.

Housing as an investment, combined with piss-poor government policy, have certainly not helped things though.

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Post by gottorf » Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 6:34 PM UTC

anotherhue wrote: post #7

I moved from Dublin to NYC. Yes the rents here are insane, but there are places to rent! There is often zero availability in Irish cities.

Zero availability would indicate either severe supply shortages due to an inability to build (zoning/regulatory problems a la some municipalities in the US? Something else?) or a price ceiling on rent, leading to an inability for the market to clear (with the equilibrium price being above the legal ceiling). Do you know which applies?

As an outsider, it would seem that Ireland has plenty of land on which to build, though the availability of building materials is another matter, and is something I can see Ireland being short on.