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Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Good husbands don't force their wives to wrestle with random daily problems like screen brightness not working on Linux because of their personal tech politics.

MacBook Air M2 should be the choice for any normal person who just needs to get normal work done. No politics, but clearly I've touched an insecurity here :/

This is the worst answer. Office for Mac is horrible compared to the same for Windows, as is plenty of other very common software - if it runs on Mac at all. It's also much worse to administer from an enterprise perspective, so it's probably not supported by the wife's IT team, and if it is it probably would have some horrible software on it that makes it unusable.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC. Smooth as butter, I love it. No app store, none of that candy crush stuff. Its what I expected Windows to be. Its a shame that I considered myself a power user but only learnt about it 2 years back.

I am currently building a gaming PC for my partner, and the OS is my biggest unsolved headache. Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC sounds perfect - can I ask you for a recommendation on where to get a license? I haven't had to deal with Microsoft licensing in over fifteen years, and unsurprisingly the topic doesn't seem to have gotten any easier since then.

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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I remember when we first found out that IE could be uninstalled from Windows 98 and thus what eventually lead the EU to mandate Microsoft give Windows users a choice of 3rd party browsers. Back then businesses were a lot more scared of the repercussions of anti-competitive behaviour than they are now.

>Back then businesses were a lot more scared of the repercussions of anti-competitive behaviour than they are now. Reasonably, too. Governments seem reluctant to actually regulate anti-competitive behavior these days, especially from tech giants. I think it must be a kind of technological "too big to fail".

There's a deliberate emphasis on the etymology of monopoly, ignoring that the word was created to describe the problems it caused and the n-opolies are causing all the same problems.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Windows 10 is just fine for my needs. Yet every weeks my system is kidnapped on startup by a menu full of dark patterns that tries to lure me into installing Windows 11. Not only is it hostile and deceitful, but it fails to explain the advantages of upgrading to 11, which makes it useless.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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>Back then businesses were a lot more scared of the repercussions of anti-competitive behaviour than they are now. Reasonably, too. Governments seem reluctant to actually regulate anti-competitive behavior these days, especially from tech giants. I think it must be a kind of technological "too big to fail".

>I think it must be a kind of technological "too big to fail". Microsoft was still big even back then, and yet they got regulated. Bell/AT&T was also a giant monopoly and it also got broken up. It seems that size wasn't the problem.

Not enough. They tried to make them separated their Office software business from the OS business, but failed sadly. Not to mentioned all the problems with them making unsupportable office files formats.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I use Edge on my laptop (because of Bing Chat, easy to use on Edge, without faffing around on OpenAI), and Microsoft still won't stop trying to push it on me every once in a while. (on windows 10, because of TPM1.2, small blessings) Like chill, you already got me. I am not going to remove Chrome and Firefox, but you are the default browser already and I use Bing too, now go away.

They push it to me all the time. Not because I'm not using edge, just because I'm using the insider (beta) version.

It's awful.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Most of the people who participate in Windows Insider are amateurs, they don't have several PCs for functional verification, they don't have in-depth knowledge of software testing, and there is no point in blaming them. On the contrary, Windows 11 is entrusted to these amateurs for functional verification instead of QA, so it is not surprising that Windows 11 has bugs in every update.

Why should Microsoft spend any money on maintaining a QA team and doing functional verification? What's the business benefit? Leaving QA to a bunch of amateurs is a good thing: it saves MS lots of money, and so increases profitability, and increases shareholder value. Windows users aren't going to stop using Windows because of a bunch of bugs that a dedicated QA department would have caught, so there's no reason to a…

Remember that those bugs and antifeatures may also cause those very Microsoft shareholders and employees to lose data (and money and time). It is not like Microsoft shareholders are forbidden to use Microsoft products.
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