Edge is insidious too, from a privacy stand point. There are literally dozens of settings that effectively send "tracking" data to Microsoft from Edge. All of the sync, shopping, points, url protection, etc. settings all effectively send data to Microsoft for evaluation. And they automatically sign you into your Edge profile (from your Windows profile). Ugh. I get that HTML has taken over the world and that most of O…
Edge was even automatically sending every image URL you viewed to their servers to "enhance" the images via the "Enhance images in Microsoft Edge" setting, which was on by default. It seems like this has since been removed, but what kind of crazy decision is that?
Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#72I gave my old parents the latest hand-me-up laptop and installed ubutntu on it because of windows 11. The install process and default configuration is so user hostile to someone that "just needs to use chrome". My niece & nephew have only known ChromeOS/iOS/Android. They will never use windows until a college course requires some specific software, or they get a desk job. I think they will for sure eventually "learn…
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#73Looks like nothing much has changed on Microsoft's end. I posted this 2 years ago on HN[1] about how Microsoft goes out of its way to manipulate users when they search for "Firefox" on Bing using Edge: > Tangentially related, but I recently spun up a Windows VM and used Edge to search Bing for "Firefox" and this is result I got[2]. > It's a giant banner that says, "You're already browsing in Microsoft Edge. Keep usin…
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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#74Windows 11 is awful. I'll continue to use windows 10 on my personal laptop for as long as possible.
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#75... If they could just do it to Chrome but leave Firefox alone.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think they like it. But their customers - advertisers - sure do.
You can turn all of that crap off with some effort. Contrast that to the Linux desktop where you can't turn off the "it just doesn't work" (unless you mean just disable the GUI completely and only use the CLI), and the enthusiast who says they have it working just the way they want probably has "just not working" more thoroughly than the defaults. The thing is that those ads are: (1) almost always for other Microsoft…
The modern Linux desktop is pretty damn usable, especially if you go with something like PopOS. It's got to be covering 99% of non-workstation-type of use cases out of the box.
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#77Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#78Most of the people who participate in Windows Insider are amateurs, they don't have several PCs for functional verification, they don't have in-depth knowledge of software testing, and there is no point in blaming them. On the contrary, Windows 11 is entrusted to these amateurs for functional verification instead of QA, so it is not surprising that Windows 11 has bugs in every update.
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#79I’m using Windows 11 and nothing forces open Edge on my machine. Every link opens in Brave like I told it to.
I haven't tried it on Win 11 because that was what caused me to drop Windows altogether. (Everyone has their straw).
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#80I’m using Windows 11 and nothing forces open Edge on my machine. Every link opens in Brave like I told it to.