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Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Edge is insidious too, from a privacy stand point. There are literally dozens of settings that effectively send "tracking" data to Microsoft from Edge. All of the sync, shopping, points, url protection, etc. settings all effectively send data to Microsoft for evaluation. And they automatically sign you into your Edge profile (from your Windows profile). Ugh. I get that HTML has taken over the world and that most of O…

Edge was even automatically sending every image URL you viewed to their servers to "enhance" the images via the "Enhance images in Microsoft Edge" setting, which was on by default. It seems like this has since been removed, but what kind of crazy decision is that?

Have they reversed that yet?

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I gave my old parents the latest hand-me-up laptop and installed ubutntu on it because of windows 11. The install process and default configuration is so user hostile to someone that "just needs to use chrome". My niece & nephew have only known ChromeOS/iOS/Android. They will never use windows until a college course requires some specific software, or they get a desk job. I think they will for sure eventually "learn…

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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Looks like nothing much has changed on Microsoft's end. I posted this 2 years ago on HN[1] about how Microsoft goes out of its way to manipulate users when they search for "Firefox" on Bing using Edge: > Tangentially related, but I recently spun up a Windows VM and used Edge to search Bing for "Firefox" and this is result I got[2]. > It's a giant banner that says, "You're already browsing in Microsoft Edge. Keep usin…

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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I don't think they like it. But their customers - advertisers - sure do.

You can turn all of that crap off with some effort. Contrast that to the Linux desktop where you can't turn off the "it just doesn't work" (unless you mean just disable the GUI completely and only use the CLI), and the enthusiast who says they have it working just the way they want probably has "just not working" more thoroughly than the defaults. The thing is that those ads are: (1) almost always for other Microsoft…

> Contrast that to the Linux desktop where you can't turn off the "it just doesn't work"

The modern Linux desktop is pretty damn usable, especially if you go with something like PopOS. It's got to be covering 99% of non-workstation-type of use cases out of the box.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Most of the people who participate in Windows Insider are amateurs, they don't have several PCs for functional verification, they don't have in-depth knowledge of software testing, and there is no point in blaming them. On the contrary, Windows 11 is entrusted to these amateurs for functional verification instead of QA, so it is not surprising that Windows 11 has bugs in every update.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Most of the people who participate in Windows Insider are amateurs, they don't have several PCs for functional verification, they don't have in-depth knowledge of software testing, and there is no point in blaming them. On the contrary, Windows 11 is entrusted to these amateurs for functional verification instead of QA, so it is not surprising that Windows 11 has bugs in every update.

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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I’m using Windows 11 and nothing forces open Edge on my machine. Every link opens in Brave like I told it to.

What happens when you press Win, type a query, then press enter, quickly? In Win 10 that opens a Bing search in Edge for me, no matter what settings I try. Very annoying when I type "(Win)chr(enter)" to open Chrome and get a search instead. If I do it slow it will sometimes work.

I haven't tried it on Win 11 because that was what caused me to drop Windows altogether. (Everyone has their straw).

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I’m using Windows 11 and nothing forces open Edge on my machine. Every link opens in Brave like I told it to.

The windows spotlight links from the landscape photos on my windows lock screen always open edge. I haven't dug in enough to find if there is a way to change that.
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