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Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

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Re: Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

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I use Wren to take some personal responsibility, and I am looking for more ways to take action.

I suggest you give up all non-human powered transportation for starters and follow that with a reduction in you electrical footprint: no more batteries - use hand- or foot-crank generation instead.

Once we haven't heard from you for an extended period we'll assume you were successful. Best of luck.

Re: Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

#92
post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

About 0%. Looking at historical timelines, the rapid change we are seeing now is unprecedented. The forced heating lines up exactly with the additional C02 and methane we have pumped into the atmosphere. We are causing this, full stop. (No need to reply; you've already shown yourself to be a sarcastic asshole who sucks down a big glass oil company propaganda for breakfast. [Insert sarcastic winking emoji here])

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Why is your life a nightmare? I’d love to hear more

Re: Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

#93
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> It was the hottest August on record – by a large margin – and the second hottest ever month after July 2023, according to the Copernicus Climate Change Service ERA 5 dataset. August as a whole is estimated to have been around 1.5°C warmer than the preindustrial average for 1850-1900, according to the C3S monthly climate bulletin. Thinking about getting to 1.5 C averaged over the planet is surreal and we are still 3…

Yes, and there’s a lag effect so the temperature will still increase for years after that. However, to be clear, it’s unlikely we get to net zero in 27 years. We haven’t reached any of our goals so far and the goals only get more difficult

I seem to recall that the first and second IPCC reports (I haven't read the newer ones) indicated that increases would continue for about 200 years, even if emissions went to zero.

Re: Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

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Seasons, global climate related cycles like El Niño, unpredictable weather and so on push temperatures up and down, eventually it will get colder next winter. But the complex system that is the planet have a lot of tipping points, that once reached things will go increasingly worse with no turning back. I'm not sure if we didn't reach that stage already, or if this kind of events will give us the extra push to cross…

This is the part of the problem it’s almost impossible to get people to accept and understand. The wilful ignorance, even among some of my own relatives, is legitimately terrifying. I tried to explain the concept of a tipping point and got chastised for buying into fake news. For a while I thought maybe a lot of people just think it’s exaggerated or something. Nope. They fully think the entire concept is a work of fi…

Yes, I have relatives that are medical doctors, physic professors, have doctorates in statistics, are engineers (real engineers and not software engineers), etc. and yet, because of the lies of conservative politics, are convinced that at best there is climate change, but it is from natural fluctuations and not human caused, and at worst that it is a hoax. Either way, there is nothing we can or should do.

Re: Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

#95

Seasons, global climate related cycles like El Niño, unpredictable weather and so on push temperatures up and down, eventually it will get colder next winter. But the complex system that is the planet have a lot of tipping points, that once reached things will go increasingly worse with no turning back. I'm not sure if we didn't reach that stage already, or if this kind of events will give us the extra push to cross…

This is the part of the problem it’s almost impossible to get people to accept and understand. The wilful ignorance, even among some of my own relatives, is legitimately terrifying. I tried to explain the concept of a tipping point and got chastised for buying into fake news. For a while I thought maybe a lot of people just think it’s exaggerated or something. Nope. They fully think the entire concept is a work of fi…

So, lets bet really everything that all the climate scientists are wrong so we can keep making profits. I get it.

Re: Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

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post #46

> It was the hottest August on record – by a large margin – and the second hottest ever month after July 2023, according to the Copernicus Climate Change Service ERA 5 dataset. August as a whole is estimated to have been around 1.5°C warmer than the preindustrial average for 1850-1900, according to the C3S monthly climate bulletin. Thinking about getting to 1.5 C averaged over the planet is surreal and we are still 3…

Yes, and there’s a lag effect so the temperature will still increase for years after that. However, to be clear, it’s unlikely we get to net zero in 27 years. We haven’t reached any of our goals so far and the goals only get more difficult

Maybe Greenland will finally get populated and maybe people will stop living in hurricane zones

Re: Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

#98
It's odd how everytime somebody mentions slashing oil production by 50 or 75%, people are immediately up in arms. Same for red meat or cheap air travel.

Western rich countries have too many really spoiled consumers.

It's weird to say, but we should crash the economy if it can slow down climate change. I mean there are plenty people in other parts of the world who don't have such a high standard of living, and it's not that big of a problem.

And yes, I don't believe it's only rich people, it's also middle class people who generate a lot of emissions, and I'm a leftist.

Re: Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't think techniques have improved since the 1940s? Of course the data would be different with 60-70 years of improved collection techniques, analysis tools, and theoretical knowledge about the climate.

This does not sound at all like good fortune will shine on current data, though?

Only if you assume the same mistakes are being made for the current data and the lessons from the past are not used.

Re: Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

#100
post #58

Apparently still not hot enough that anyone is power is doing any large changes

Elections are every roughly every half decade in most of the world, right? I think the leaders know that we won't panic about our climate changing over that time span. What do we call the climate change equivalent of an Overton window?

In most of the world we are the leaders.
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