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So your logic doesn't apply for your home, for your neighborhood or your city? Does it hold for you state or do you need to become completely independent country?
Huh? My home isn’t a commons and requires no management of a shared resource. You need a bureaucracy once you have a shared resource, and at that point no one is entitled to the resource more than anyone else.
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This article, and the one it is based on, is just rage bait. Sadly, this topic specifically works really well in HN.
OP's submission history is just page-after-page of it: https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=donnie12345 It's not really being submitted in good-faith. My advice is to flag submissions with edited titles, and ignore the obvious outrage porn. It seems to work, more often than not.
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At what square footage does it start holding then? At what point do you start caring more for others than your family and vice versa?
When you aren’t the sole owner of the resources being managed. Once you establish a commons, you need a bureaucracy of some kind to manage it.
Is it about land superficy or about ownership? Can we establish a clear framework here instead of constantly jumping from one wishy washy thing to the other?
You aren't the sole owner of your house either. Even without a mortgage you are not. So if someone adhere to the social contract in your house I assume you let them in to do as they please (within the limit of the contract of course.)
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So your logic doesn't apply for your home, for your neighborhood or your city? Does it hold for you state or do you need to become completely independent country?
Huh? My home isn’t a commons and requires no management of a shared resource. You need a bureaucracy once you have a shared resource, and at that point no one is entitled to the resource more than anyone else.
The land your home is built on is part of a shared resource: the space available for the community.
If we apply your logic there s nothing wrong with immigrants showing up and colonizing natives - be it in America, Australia, etc - shared resource bro!
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Calling it slavery isn't to say that the situation is on par with Uyghur camps or Indian laborers in the middle east etc. Just like "I'm dying from this heat" doesn't actually say that the heat is so severe as to kill you the way it can in some parts of the world. The point is that the system creates a similar sense of entrapment as slavery. The fact that it isn't literal slavery doesn't make it not an exploitative p…
"I'm dying from this heat" is okay because dying is something we all do. That phrase would stop being okay if death was something that happens not to you but to poorer people in other countries. See the difference? Comparing your privileged life with really bad events that happen to others makes light of them. There's a reason things like "omg it's like a gas chamber here amirite?" are often frowned upon and Auschwit…
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When you aren’t the sole owner of the resources being managed. Once you establish a commons, you need a bureaucracy of some kind to manage it.
Man that's some serious goal post moving happening on this thread. We go from land superficy to land ownership - with a little sprinkle of "muh racism" because why not. Is it about land superficy or about ownership? Can we establish a clear framework here instead of constantly jumping from one wishy washy thing to the other? You aren't the sole owner of your house either. Even without a mortgage you are not. So if so…
It’s about how to manage shared resources amongst people who all have equal claim, which is everyone who has agreed to the social contract. When you agreed is irrelevant.
Frankly, I would argue that many people born in the US do not hold up their end of the social contract, and should thus take a backseat to immigrants who would come here and care deeply for the social contact in their place.
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"I'm dying from this heat" is okay because dying is something we all do. That phrase would stop being okay if death was something that happens not to you but to poorer people in other countries. See the difference? Comparing your privileged life with really bad events that happen to others makes light of them. There's a reason things like "omg it's like a gas chamber here amirite?" are often frowned upon and Auschwit…
Easy to say that when you don't have a family member who is suicidally depressed because they spent 20 years working hard to get through the process, had their green card application process messed up by their employer, have barely lived in their country of origin and have no career prospects there because what they are educated in is not valued there.
So yeah sorry to hear but it's one of those many sucky situations in life. The lack of options is illusory. Mental issues are mental issues, slavery is slavery, misfortune as a free person is misfortune as a free person.
Sounds like grounds to sue for the "messed up" process? If not I assume if whoever it is worked 20 years in the US they have experience that can be valued in many countries. I'd recommended checking around the more reasonable ones like Canada or Australia. As free person can.
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Man that's some serious goal post moving happening on this thread. We go from land superficy to land ownership - with a little sprinkle of "muh racism" because why not. Is it about land superficy or about ownership? Can we establish a clear framework here instead of constantly jumping from one wishy washy thing to the other? You aren't the sole owner of your house either. Even without a mortgage you are not. So if so…
The house analogy makes zero sense, as my house is not a commons (I am sole owner, even with a mortgage, methinks you don’t have one of these), but if it were then yes, anyone agreeing to the social contract of the government of my home would be allowed in or out. It’s about how to manage shared resources amongst people who all have equal claim, which is everyone who has agreed to the social contract. When you agreed…
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Why are Americans more deserving of jobs then other people?
When you play sports and your team is winning, do you stop trying to give a chance for the competitor team?
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I've had multiple coworkers remove comments or reject CRs because there were too many comments. If you foster a culture where comments are discouraged then it's less of an impediment
I didn't even knew this was a thing. I write tons of comments thinking they could be appreciated in case somebody has to glance at the code.