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Google, Meta, Amazon hiring low-paid H1B workers after US layoffs

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Post by sizzle »

resolutebat wrote: post #236
mrtksn wrote: post #229

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Interesting, isn't it considered impolite to speak in a language that someone in the group doesn't understand? When I was in Germany, Germans even texted their SO in English in case I glance over their phones. Maybe the group I was in was exceptionally welcoming but everywhere in Europe where I lived(EU, non-EU, UK etc.) it was always considered rude to speak a language that others don't understand and everyone alway…

Yes, but many Chinese engineers have such a low level of proficiency that they genuinely struggle to communicate in spoken English. Pronunciation/accent can also be a major barrier to comprehension.

Tell them to use chatgpt to translate their broken English

Re: Google, Meta, Amazon hiring low-paid H1B workers after US layoffs

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Post by rcme »

ajmurmann wrote: post #328
rcme wrote: post #299

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Do you want to work with them even if that means a lower salary? Surely, since you’re among the “brightest in the world” you understand that labor prices are set by supply and demand. The H1B process increases the labor supply and thus decreases the price of labor.

> since you’re among the “brightest in the world” I'm certainly not one of them, but love working with bright people. > you understand that labor prices are set by supply and demand. The H1B process increases the labor supply and thus decreases the price of labor. The pie isn't fixed. I believe it will grow and there will be more for everyone if we allow everyone to thrive. New people create demand and maybe reverb s…

That’s true. I concede productivity isn’t zero sum.

Re: Google, Meta, Amazon hiring low-paid H1B workers after US layoffs

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Post by sizzle »

paint wrote: post #176
burnerburnson wrote: post #103

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I'm a manager of a team that's mostly H1Bs at Google. It's mostly fine but a few of them just refuse improve their English, and it's frustrating spending hours every day just being an English teacher to an engineer who writes at a 5th grade level. The problem with hiring too many H1Bs is they speak to each other in Chinese and thus take forever to become proficient at communicating with the rest of the company. Also,…

refuse improve their English

I had to read that a few times and chuckled at the irony

Re: Google, Meta, Amazon hiring low-paid H1B workers after US layoffs

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onetimeusename wrote: post #329
greatpostman wrote: post #13

Generally not supposed to say this out loud, but being the only American on an all H1B team at these companies can be absolutely brutal. Very alienating, always missing out on back channel communications, no sympathy for missteps

My ex gf is here on H1B and so is all her friend group. I feel bad for her situation, it adds a layer of stress but the way they treat the visa is disrespectful to Americans I think. For example, they are generally of the mindset that Americans are stupider and lazier than them which is why they are here. So they will vent their frustrations on Americans by calling us stupid and lazy and entitled because we have citi…

N=1 anecdote hopefully not generalizable across the population

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Post by nec4b »

Zetice wrote: post #403
nec4b wrote: post #395

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Are you putting other people before your family, friends or neighbors?

My family and neighbors aren’t occupying 3.7 million square miles and aren’t numbered in the hundreds of millions, so the analogy does not hold.

At what square footage does it start holding then? At what point do you start caring more for others than your family and vice versa?

Re: Google, Meta, Amazon hiring low-paid H1B workers after US layoffs

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Post by nec4b »

Zetice wrote: post #421
nec4b wrote: post #397

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So it's inconvenient for you to open your house to anyone?

If my house were like a country, it would be quite convenient and I would indeed open my home to everyone willing to participate in my social contract. But my home isn’t in any way like a country, so this question isn’t meaningful.

So your logic doesn't apply for your home, for your neighborhood or your city? Does it hold for you state or do you need to become completely independent country?

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Post by [deleted] »

gabereiser wrote: post #310
gloryjulio wrote: post #54

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Any guides on how to make multi millions per year as consultant?

Start a consultancy, start making money. There’s no hard guide. No playbook on how to succeed for you personally. It’s a business, just like any other. Treat it as a business. Not a job. Build it up. Network. Showcase. Charge slightly less than you would have. Hire more people to assist in the work. Compound your time. Compound your money.

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Re: Google, Meta, Amazon hiring low-paid H1B workers after US layoffs

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Post by gloryjulio »

gabereiser wrote: post #310
gloryjulio wrote: post #54

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Any guides on how to make multi millions per year as consultant?

Start a consultancy, start making money. There’s no hard guide. No playbook on how to succeed for you personally. It’s a business, just like any other. Treat it as a business. Not a job. Build it up. Network. Showcase. Charge slightly less than you would have. Hire more people to assist in the work. Compound your time. Compound your money.

Sounds like not much different from working on ur own startup. That would be very different from coasting as senior/staff in faang

Re: Google, Meta, Amazon hiring low-paid H1B workers after US layoffs

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Post by nec4b »

Zetice wrote: post #151
booleandilemma wrote: post #18

I mean, no kidding. Half the people I work with are H-1B. The program takes jobs away from Americans and should be illegal. I want to work with people from my town, not people from halfway across the world.

Why are Americans more deserving of jobs then other people?

When you play sports and your team is winning, do you stop trying to give a chance for the competitor team?
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