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Re: Dennis Austin, developer of PowerPoint, has died

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I work in a Corporate where we have lots of "strategy" teams and PPTs flying around. What I learned is that PPT are more than a presentation format in this culture, they are a signaling tool: • something that is "just" an email, or "just" something somebody said in a meeting doesn't carry much weight in Corporates • .. but if you put it in a PPT with some graphics, it signals you've thought about it, and probably had…

As a tech weirdo I still think PPTs are the best way to convey concepts. You can mix bullet points with images and video and have everything be progressively revealed exactly when you explain it. I can‘t even think of an alternative to this other than adhoc whiteboard drawings which can‘t match PPTs on any axis except if you‘re just (collaboratively) developing an idea/concept

> I can‘t even think of an alternative to this other than adhoc whiteboard drawings which can‘t match PPTs on any axis except if you‘re just (collaboratively) developing an idea/concept

I think this is a major part of the problem. Powerpoint is so commonplace now that we cannot even conceive of different ways of presenting information to groups. If you cannot figure out how to express an idea in the medium of Powerpoint or slideware in general, then that idea is difficult to express nowadays. That limits the kind of information you can share, especially complex information that is not so easily conveyed in bullet points or in sparse infographics. "The medium is the message", in other words.

Maybe I'm old, but I remember going over a lot of information in group settings without the use of Powerpoint. Here's a few examples of alternatives:

- overhead projectors (common when I was in elementary school)

- slide projectors

- lectures and speeches

- live demonstrations

- field and laboratory work (can be very hands-on learning)

- panel discussions and debates

- group discussions (after everyone reads a book or report)

- displaying a written report on a screen rather than distinct slides (I do this myself sometimes)

Some of these aren't going to work that well if you need to convey Q3 sales figures, for example, but my point is that there are other options out there even though Powerpoint has flooded the arena. Note that you can even combine these with Powerpoint or slideware and get the best of both worlds too for that matter. I'm not against Powerpoint as much as I dislike how it is conventionally used.

(I must also note that many people, myself included, hate the "slow crawl" of having information revealed progressively. It might work sparingly for dramatic effect but having been in so many meetings with bad speakers, it is far too easily abused and always makes me ask myself "When will the speaker get to the point?").

Re: Dennis Austin, developer of PowerPoint, has died

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If you want to read about the development of PowerPoint by its visionary, you can checkout the book Sweating Bullets by Robert Gaskins: https://amzn.to/3PvTvF0 Dennis Austin was the lead developer and Gaskins was the idea guy/manager.

Robert Gaskins, co-creator of PowerPoint, has a personal website with info about PowerPoint: https://www.robertgaskins.com/

One can also download the "Sweating Bullets..." book in PDF form for free from his website (listed in the PowerPoint History section on the main page of his website): https://www.robertgaskins.com/powerpoint-history/sweating-bu...

Re: Dennis Austin, developer of PowerPoint, has died

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I work in a Corporate where we have lots of "strategy" teams and PPTs flying around. What I learned is that PPT are more than a presentation format in this culture, they are a signaling tool: • something that is "just" an email, or "just" something somebody said in a meeting doesn't carry much weight in Corporates • .. but if you put it in a PPT with some graphics, it signals you've thought about it, and probably had…

> PPTs are a cultural currency in Corporates.

Sure, but not always in a good way

Where I work it seems that for the execs the PPT is the product

They get credit for the PPT/presentation and zero demerits for not actually following through and delivering

For dev groups reporting up, you get more credit for a good PPT putting a spin on a shitty project than for a project well done.

Re: Dennis Austin, developer of PowerPoint, has died

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A strange legacy. Most of the management in my company cannot digest even simple information if it’s not on PowerPoint slides. Even when it is on preparing PowerPoint slides, text heavy slides are a big no no. Some days, more time is spent on PowerPoint slides than writing code, or actually engineering. We jokingly call presentation prep work as getting ready to push the PowerPoint to prod.

I don’t see an issue with this. I had a very technical CTO at my n-2 job who was in his 50s and would often write POCs himself in C# or Python as research. When he wanted to see if data that we got had the information we needed he would upload it to S3 and run some Athena queries. But I still know when he asks me some questions he just wants a very high level overview and doesn’t want the details. I’m working with hi…

Sounds like a really good leader. Looking back at my response, I realize I was somewhat unclear. I meant that most individual contributors are expected to do prepare a lot of slides so management can understand what’s going on and it very much cuts into actual time to build the thing.

Then when things aren’t going expected, we make more slides on why it’s not going as expected instead of allocating time to do the engineering work that’s needed to course correct.

Re: Dennis Austin, developer of PowerPoint, has died

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One aspect of Amazon culture I’ve enjoyed is that meetings are document driven, and PPTs are rare, even non existent. Meetings start with dedicated reading time. It feels like PPT engendered this false sense of communication by making it easier to bullet-ize and visualize. PPT in practice lowers the critical thinking required of presenters and presentees.

I've never worked at Amazon, but this is something I really envy about my friends who do. I love a well-written, concise document, but the large enterprise I work at now is in love with Google Slides. I can't stand them.

Re: Dennis Austin, developer of PowerPoint, has died

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One aspect of Amazon culture I’ve enjoyed is that meetings are document driven, and PPTs are rare, even non existent. Meetings start with dedicated reading time. It feels like PPT engendered this false sense of communication by making it easier to bullet-ize and visualize. PPT in practice lowers the critical thinking required of presenters and presentees.

Why do meetings start with dedicated reading time? Did people always come unprepared? How can I imagine this? Is it like: "Hey folks, thanks for showing up. This is the document we'll be discussing in 20min. Please read it now?".

I don't think it's bad. I like written, long form content. It just is very far from what I know.

Re: Dennis Austin, developer of PowerPoint, has died

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powerpoint is one of those things that most people don’t think about nowadays, but before presentation software, people had to carry printouts, or slide decks for projectors, maybe laminated sheets for overhead projectors. PowerPoint has saved people a huge amount of work.

I don't think I'm particularly old (only in my 40s) but I'm old enough to have made presentations with transparent sheets on an overhead projector. I don't quite remember how I prepared those sheets (I want to say a printing tracer?).

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