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Google, Meta, Amazon hiring low-paid H1B workers after US layoffs

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vacuity wrote: post #343
Zetice wrote: post #247

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There is nothing at all special about a US worker. Welcome to the world, where people who aren’t from or in the US also need to feed their families, and have just as much a right to do so as Americans do.

Welcome to the world, where people who are from the US need to feed their families, and have just as much a right to do so as immigrants do. See the issue? Just because we accept immigrants and they benefit the economy doesn't mean everyone is magically happy. Do you think the US should support every poor person in the world? Can it?

Yes and yes. People want to contribute, people want to work, the more people in the US the better off the US is, full stop.

Re: Google, Meta, Amazon hiring low-paid H1B workers after US layoffs

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whiddershins wrote: post #334
Zetice wrote: post #247

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There is nothing at all special about a US worker. Welcome to the world, where people who aren’t from or in the US also need to feed their families, and have just as much a right to do so as Americans do.

So what stops them from doing it in their host country? And if their host country is non functional what should be done about that? Are you arguing we should bring back colonialism? Or are you arguing that all the most capable people should live in one rich country and the rest of the world should be an endless slum? Maybe all these capable people should work to reform and improve the conditions of the country where…

Nothing, and many do. Many also are free to come here.

Re: Google, Meta, Amazon hiring low-paid H1B workers after US layoffs

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vacuity wrote: post #332
Zetice wrote: post #315

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Half a million people who wish to leave their country for America would no longer be able to. A great many of those people are operating out of necessity.

What, don't Americans need things too? The logical conclusion of "countries should support their people" is that the countries these people are emigrating from should support them. If a country like the US is doing that well for its people, it can afford to give aid to these other countries, maybe accept a portion of the immigrants. As it stands, it's kind of a lose-lose situation because who cares about caring for t…

It is not "reality" to claim that Americans would lose out if more immigrants came to the US.

Re: Google, Meta, Amazon hiring low-paid H1B workers after US layoffs

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Post by vacuity »

Zetice wrote: post #361
vacuity wrote: post #343

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Welcome to the world, where people who are from the US need to feed their families, and have just as much a right to do so as immigrants do. See the issue? Just because we accept immigrants and they benefit the economy doesn't mean everyone is magically happy. Do you think the US should support every poor person in the world? Can it?

Yes and yes. People want to contribute, people want to work, the more people in the US the better off the US is, full stop.

You'd be fine with us going from a population of 3XX million to, say, 3 billion? I feel like there'd be a few problems with that. Can we annex other countries then? I'm not trying to be facetious; I genuinely don't understand how "immigrants good" translates to "literally anyone who is willing to work should be allowed and there won't be any logistical issues because why would there be".

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Post by vacuity »

Zetice wrote: post #359
vacuity wrote: post #352

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> The general rule here is that unless there's an obvious reason to deny equal people something you've given other people, you shouldn't deny it in the first place. Of course. The problem is that your view of the economy is optimistic, perhaps dangerously so. Let's hope we never reach the limit and have a concrete problem on our hands, I guess.

My view is not optimistic, it's reflective of reality.

As much as a weather forecaster's is, I suppose.

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Post by HAL3000 »

tmpX7dMeXU wrote: post #305
inemesitaffia wrote: post #153

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No. This is 100% just informed by your ideology. Enough said. Don’t peddle that here. When people actually discuss the advantages of diversity in the workplace, the advantages exist due to actual diversity, not just “a non-white-male voice”. You’ll no doubt cite some extreme view or vocal minority to justify making this assumption, but it is not what most people mean most of the time. You’re painting a false reality…

> No. This is 100% just informed by your ideology. Enough said. Don’t peddle that here.

My friend was filling a technical role and he had to turn down fitting white male candidates and hire technically inferior one just to satisfy diversification. It's not about ideology, it's about pathology that diversification creates in some cases.

Re: Google, Meta, Amazon hiring low-paid H1B workers after US layoffs

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Post by vacuity »

Zetice wrote: post #363
vacuity wrote: post #332

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What, don't Americans need things too? The logical conclusion of "countries should support their people" is that the countries these people are emigrating from should support them. If a country like the US is doing that well for its people, it can afford to give aid to these other countries, maybe accept a portion of the immigrants. As it stands, it's kind of a lose-lose situation because who cares about caring for t…

It is not "reality" to claim that Americans would lose out if more immigrants came to the US.

I'm clearly not against immigrants because I don't like immigration. It's also not grounded in reality for you to say that Americans can support arbitrary numbers of immigrants because the economy will magically make things work out.

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Post by i_am_a_peasant »

mrtksn wrote: post #344
i_am_a_peasant wrote: post #287

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I don't know where in germany you worked at but most offices here are not nearly as english friendly, in my experience it's quite rare and more than half the IT jobs still expect you to know some German otherwise it's a non starter.

>I don't know where in germany Frankfurt, non-IT job. I guess the mileage varies.

hope you enjoyed your stay, I've been meaning to visit that part of the country for a while, never got the chance to see Saalburg north of Frankfurt.
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