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Re: LibreWolf – Custom version of Firefox, focused on privacy, security and freedom

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Post by itvision »

wintermutestwin wrote: post #89
itvision wrote: post #26

The biggest problem with all these "privacy" oriented web browsers is that you have to trust their creators explicitly and I just cannot. Most often the developers are some random anonymous Joes without CVs or anything proving they have reputation at stake. Thank you, but no thank you. Even if the official Firefox "leaks" something it's well controlled and well known. What do these browsers do? I've no idea.

>you have to trust their creators explicitly Yes, and that same issue stands for extensions that are essential for making the browser usable. Who uses Firefox without uBlock? I won't use a browser that lacks a feature rich vertical tabs solution and that requires me to use sidebery with Firefox. That essentially forces me to trust a host of extension creators that I know nothing about. Yes, source can be reviewed, bu…

Mozilla has a special program when they check manually and mark extensions which are trustworthy. It's been there since the advent of WebExtensions.

Re: LibreWolf – Custom version of Firefox, focused on privacy, security and freedom

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Post by itvision »

ksala_ wrote: post #117
wintermutestwin wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>you have to trust their creators explicitly Yes, and that same issue stands for extensions that are essential for making the browser usable. Who uses Firefox without uBlock? I won't use a browser that lacks a feature rich vertical tabs solution and that requires me to use sidebery with Firefox. That essentially forces me to trust a host of extension creators that I know nothing about. Yes, source can be reviewed, bu…

If you limit yourself to the recommended ones they're supposed to be reviewed by a human and subject to some amount of guidelines - https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/recommended-extensions-... and https://extensionworkshop.com/documentation/develop/build-a-... Personally I do try to limit the amount of them I run, stick with recommended and take at least a glance at the source from time to time, but it would not d…

Not only that, trustworthy extensions normally have serious well-known developers behind them which decreases the risk of stumbling into something malicious.

To this date not a single extension which has been marked as recommended by Mozilla was found to contain malware.

Google on the other hand while being 1000 times richer has none of it.

Re: LibreWolf – Custom version of Firefox, focused on privacy, security and freedom

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Post by itvision »

ShowalkKama wrote: post #32
itvision wrote: post #26

The biggest problem with all these "privacy" oriented web browsers is that you have to trust their creators explicitly and I just cannot. Most often the developers are some random anonymous Joes without CVs or anything proving they have reputation at stake. Thank you, but no thank you. Even if the official Firefox "leaks" something it's well controlled and well known. What do these browsers do? I've no idea.

it's open source, you can simply look at the code (or, better, at the differences with firefox)

> it's open source, you can simply look at the code (or, better, at the differences with firefox)

Are you really serious? Firefox source is 21 million lines of code.

Re: LibreWolf – Custom version of Firefox, focused on privacy, security and freedom

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Post by teddyh »

dralley wrote: post #100
ploum wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never heard about this drama. Any link to share?

An OpenBSD developer was preparing a port of Pale Moon, and the PaleMoon devs were absolutely massive pricks about it, immediately became aggressive and started talking about lawyers, at which point all bridges were burnt and all work on Pale Moon for OpenBSD was dropped. https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86

Don’t forget the whole Debian Iceweasel thing (now thankfully resolved): https://wiki.debian.org/Firefox#Iceweasel>

Re: LibreWolf – Custom version of Firefox, focused on privacy, security and freedom

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Post by itvision »

mewse-hn wrote: post #66

I got fed up with Chrome recently (some real ugly on-by-default advertising tracking) and switched to Firefox on my work computer but not my home computer yet. Is anyone out there self-hosting firefox sync successfully? My googling seemed to only bring up a deprecated version so I haven't really tried setting it up yet.

Firefox sync encrypts your data with your password (it's not exactly like that but that's the gist of it) and Mozilla has zero access to it, none at all. I see no reason not to trust them with that. It's a lot easier and _safer_ to use their service then to set up your own.

Why safer? Because with your own self-hosting, now you have to have an extra device wide open to the Internet whose safety and security you need to maintain. If it's some shared hosting, you'll have to trust your hosting provider.

Re: LibreWolf – Custom version of Firefox, focused on privacy, security and freedom

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Post by hatsune »

The daily dose of privacyguides forum dissing LibreWolf for unjustified [reason](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/librewolf-browser-firefo...), while their recommanded "Brave" was delibrately a product to replace annoying ads with their own commercial ads and earn BAT crypto, built-in VPN, built-in Web3, wallet, whatever stuff...

Their opinion TLDR; no auto-updater (community auto-updater exists), no advantage to config Arkenfox.js by yourself (but why do I need to be a json geek to just use a browser?)

LW the best daily-driver browser for me, they still include the option to use FF Sync, which is supposed to be safe as E2EE. Mullvad Browser is better but hard to daily drive.

Similar to ublock origin advanced mode (which basically is uMatrix continued), be prepared to fix the site by yourself sometimes. But for safety, privacy, anonymity and security, hell yah.

Re: LibreWolf – Custom version of Firefox, focused on privacy, security and freedom

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Post by ptman »

danjoredd wrote: post #51
extr0pian wrote: post #10

Just yesterday I had noticed that, "Suggestions from sponsors" in the address bar had been turned back on after a recent Firefox update, and then installed Librewolf. I really want to use it as my main browser, but certain use cases such as online banking (at least with my credit union) doesn't seem to work properly, so I re-disabled "Suggestions from sponsors" in Firefox and went on with my day. Seriously, changing…

Mozilla has been frustrating, at least to me lately. I want to support them, but very little of the money given to them goes to the browser itself or even their research projects, and the "phoning home" aspect also annoys me. On top of that they are also heavily funded by Google. My personal theory on why they do that is so they don't get hit with an antitrust. Its concerning to me though because that means Google ha…

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/ability-to-donate-money...

Re: LibreWolf – Custom version of Firefox, focused on privacy, security and freedom

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Post by kaba0 »

danjoredd wrote: post #51
extr0pian wrote: post #10

Just yesterday I had noticed that, "Suggestions from sponsors" in the address bar had been turned back on after a recent Firefox update, and then installed Librewolf. I really want to use it as my main browser, but certain use cases such as online banking (at least with my credit union) doesn't seem to work properly, so I re-disabled "Suggestions from sponsors" in Firefox and went on with my day. Seriously, changing…

Mozilla has been frustrating, at least to me lately. I want to support them, but very little of the money given to them goes to the browser itself or even their research projects, and the "phoning home" aspect also annoys me. On top of that they are also heavily funded by Google. My personal theory on why they do that is so they don't get hit with an antitrust. Its concerning to me though because that means Google ha…

> "phoning home" aspect also annoys me

That thing is so minuscule and more of an everyday feature that I really don't see all the fuss about it.

Also, it is a game theory "both would lose if stopped" situation with google, so no, google has no way to affect Mozilla directly. If they were to stop it, Firefox might stop being developed and Google definitely gets sued, and it is basically free money for Firefox, setting the default search engine is no big deal.

Re: LibreWolf – Custom version of Firefox, focused on privacy, security and freedom

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Post by kaba0 »

donkeybeer wrote: post #105
lemper wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not him. but there's this person whose paycheck is 7digits. pretty sure the person in question doesn't know a lick about rendering engine or other nitty gritty details of how browser works.

Remember how the new CEO upon joining fired 250 employees and simultaneously upped her own pay to 2.5 million? (Its much more now)

And it is nothing remarkable compared to any other tech company CEO's salary. Sure, shitty thing to do, but to smear Firefox's name over it..
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