FAQ: When is the optimal time to sell your used Switch 1?
Depends a lot on what the backwards-compatibility story for the Switch 2 winds up being...
Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually, just straight-up re-releasing remasters of the games might be a way to make backward compatibility work as a business model. I'm really cynical that, while the consumers in threads like this widely consider the backward compatibility to be an obvious choice, it just doesn't make business sense in a world where certain companies in particular make such a killing by perpetually re-selling the same games back…
I have to imagine the Steam Deck playing in the same price bracket (the refurb base model was going for $320), Nintendo _may_ feel the pressure to support backwards compatibility. Why buy a new device and Breath of the Wild over again when you could just get a Deck and play a large % of ever PC game to have ever existed? Nintendo is also in a different position this time around, as the WiiU, DS, 3DS, etc had such dif…
> Why buy a new device and Breath of the Wild over again when you could just get a Deck and play a large % of ever PC game to have ever existed?
...and still be able to play Breath of the Wild on it. (Although, to be fail, the mainstream user probably won't be doing that.)
Re: Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom
#33I imagine it would be a better tablet, hopefully it would also have complete backward compatibility. Edit: I see there are a lot of replies already on my comment but I need to add more thoughts to it, I have the feeling that if Nintendo is going to release a better tablet with complete backward compatibility with the Switch, most developers will continue to develop for the original console instead of developing games…
I feel like they pretty much have to make it backwards compatible. They just released a new Zelda game which is like a once-every-7-years event and there's no way they're gonna make people re-buy the game a year after launch on the new console, especially when they already made it the most expensive single price for a Switch game. Plus they have a fairly big Mario release coming up next month (Super Mario Bros Wonder…
There's nothing preventing them from serving recompiled versions from the store though, right? As long as the behaviour is the same, they could have two different versions behind the scenes for the first party games (Mario, Zelda).
Re: Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
>complete backward compatibility That would mean Nvidia SoC. The first gen Switch choose Nvidia because they were cheap, and Nvidia were despite to get their SoC into some use. With today's Nvidia I am just worried Nintendo isn't getting any decent deals.
Worried is a weird word when we are talking about Nintendo. Nintendo is scummy AF advertising/marketing to children and their constant abuse of fans for playing recreationally with IP. Nintendo is probably a negative externality given their marketing to children. To this day, I still have a mental illness of obsession to their games, and I hate playing them.
> Nintendo is scummy AF advertising/marketing to children and their constant abuse of fans for playing recreationally with IP.
This is really not my experience. To my eye they don't seem to be engaged in the majority of the awful practices around marketing that are pervasive in tech today.
As for the "constant abuse of fans" thing - is Nintendo really that different from any other company who has to protect their IP in this arena? There have definitely been frustrating situations around fan games and the like, but the argument I've always seen (which makes sense) is that they pretty much have to enforce copyright zealously to prevent loss of control of their brands.
Re: Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom
#35That would not be very Nintendo to just deliver a powered-up version of their console, after already delivering an improved OLED model. The last incremental iteration would have been the GameBoy advance, but even then, the form factor changed a lot.
they stumbled on the perfect form factor. why rock the boat?
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#36I know console people won't like this but I wish the went back to two consoles, I hate how big the switch is, all my life I bought nintendo portables only cause they were small and I could bring in my pocket...
I think that in this day and age that niche is pretty much filled by smartphones, though. Not perfectly, but enough that it's hard to compete. The Switch does well because it's a bunch of things that your smartphone isn't -- bigger screen, better controls, and also a home console that connects to your TV -- while still being small enough that it's easy to slip into a bag you might be carrying.
And smartphones aren't getting smaller either
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#37I imagine it would be a better tablet, hopefully it would also have complete backward compatibility. Edit: I see there are a lot of replies already on my comment but I need to add more thoughts to it, I have the feeling that if Nintendo is going to release a better tablet with complete backward compatibility with the Switch, most developers will continue to develop for the original console instead of developing games…
I feel like they pretty much have to make it backwards compatible. They just released a new Zelda game which is like a once-every-7-years event and there's no way they're gonna make people re-buy the game a year after launch on the new console, especially when they already made it the most expensive single price for a Switch game. Plus they have a fairly big Mario release coming up next month (Super Mario Bros Wonder…
Breath of the Wild was released for the Wii U and Switch. It’s not impossible (just really bad) that they don’t offer backwards compatibility
Re: Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom
#38Honest question from a videogame noob who considers buying a console for someone as a Christmas gift: does that mean that there is a chance of getting a Switch 1 (new, not used) cheaper soon?
Doubtful, unless the Switch 1 line is discontinued. There are Lite ($199) and OLED ($349) models now, if you're looking for something other than the standard ($299).
Re: Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom
#39That would not be very Nintendo to just deliver a powered-up version of their console, after already delivering an improved OLED model. The last incremental iteration would have been the GameBoy advance, but even then, the form factor changed a lot.
More recently, there was the New Nintendo 3DS. It was mostly backwards-compatible, but did have exclusive games.
Re: Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom
#40I imagine it would be a better tablet, hopefully it would also have complete backward compatibility. Edit: I see there are a lot of replies already on my comment but I need to add more thoughts to it, I have the feeling that if Nintendo is going to release a better tablet with complete backward compatibility with the Switch, most developers will continue to develop for the original console instead of developing games…
>complete backward compatibility That would mean Nvidia SoC. The first gen Switch choose Nvidia because they were cheap, and Nvidia were despite to get their SoC into some use. With today's Nvidia I am just worried Nintendo isn't getting any decent deals.
> With today's Nvidia I am just worried Nintendo isn't getting any decent deals.
The current-gen Switch is kinda crazy underpowered. There's plenty of room for Nvidia to improve on the 20/16nm TSMC process used in the original, as well as adding better acceleration for modern features like DLSS, ML and ray tracing. It would still be an enormous performance leap even if they both phone it in and fab the console on cheap-as-chips TSMC 7nm.