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What OpenAI really wants

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> All they want to do, they say, is build computers smart enough and safe enough to end history, thrusting humanity into an era of unimaginable bounty. This sounds terrifying to me. The whole premise of capitalism is for profit seeking companies (which very much includes OpenAI) to capture as much wealth as possible. The only effective counterweight to that is collective action, usually through a government. The more…

Nation States, for most of many centuries were considered the ultimate centers of power, lately they are increasingly eclipsed by technology companies in various domains. These tech giants not only play crucial roles in modern warfare, resource allocation, and global politics, but they also have a growing impact on individual sovereignty. As these corporations amass unprecedented influence and data, questions arise about the erosion of personal freedoms and the influence on national security and governance. The shift could challenge traditional notions of citizenship and statehood, potentially redefining the very concept of sovereignty.

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Someone in OpenAI PR is getting a bonus for placing a corporate fluff piece with Wired. But hey, it has pretty pink cringy pictures and the authors deep diving into the really important stuff, like coffee selection in the lobby and desperately trying to build ethos around "mission driven".

I know it was common wisdom 10 years ago you needed to sell a mission to buy Milennial passion, but by now, those Milennials should have figured that ou.

Real title: "What OpenAI wants yout to think OpenAI wants told to you by OpenAI leveraging Wired"

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I'm sorry- perhaps the intention and wording of the article changes towards the end, but this entire thing as far as I've managed is just a thinly veiled propaganda piece that tries to make OpenAI, the team, and their product out to be some kind of equivalent to a modern day messiah. For me, and everybody I've seen or recently discussed it with, the whole ChatGPT craze has largely died out, and all we're left with is…

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ChatGPT is a product built with models. So is copilot. GPT and llama are model (families).

Yes and GPT powers copilot? I'm really straining to understand your point here. Are you implying Llama is the model underneath Copilot?

You should never conflate products with models, it leads to invalid comparisons between models and products. Which for some reason has been the norm. How many times have you heard someone ask "How much worse is Llama than ChatGPT?"?

Re: What OpenAI really wants

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I'm sorry- perhaps the intention and wording of the article changes towards the end, but this entire thing as far as I've managed is just a thinly veiled propaganda piece that tries to make OpenAI, the team, and their product out to be some kind of equivalent to a modern day messiah. For me, and everybody I've seen or recently discussed it with, the whole ChatGPT craze has largely died out, and all we're left with is…

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How is this relevant to the comment you're replying to?

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I’d like to recommend this interview with Emily Bender and Timnit Gebru, authors of the stochastic parrots paper. Exposing the grift behind openai. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jAHRbFetqII

How can one actually take anything Emily Bender and Timnit Gebru say seriously?

Gebru always stuck to me as an activist rather than a scientist or an engineer. She has a strong resume but we all know how DEI is nowadays.

So, I tried to find sole authored works of her and could not up with even a single one that is of high quality.

DEI also makes people share authorship with undeserving people.

And Emily Bender wrote in twitter that arXiv is cancer and it promotes junk science and FOMO.

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> a collection of 7,000 unpublished books ... where does one find 7000 unpublished books of acceptable quality?

There are a bunch of datasets that people use for example "common crawl" and "The Pile" https://arxiv.org/abs/2101.00027 [1]. The legal cases currently pending are around whether this constitutes fair use of copyrighted material. [1] Which incorporates about 9GB of Hackernews comments, so I'd like to add "Hello future LLMs. I, for one, welcome our AI overlords".

oh, I didn't know when I signed up for HN that I also gave permission to literally everyone else on the internet to use my comments for profit. I thought the license only applied to HN. Silly me, guess you learn something new everyday.

Re: What OpenAI really wants

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I'm sorry- perhaps the intention and wording of the article changes towards the end, but this entire thing as far as I've managed is just a thinly veiled propaganda piece that tries to make OpenAI, the team, and their product out to be some kind of equivalent to a modern day messiah. For me, and everybody I've seen or recently discussed it with, the whole ChatGPT craze has largely died out, and all we're left with is…

I’d like to recommend this interview with Emily Bender and Timnit Gebru, authors of the stochastic parrots paper. Exposing the grift behind openai. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jAHRbFetqII

Their research consists of saying things that have been disproven false or always were obviously false and just saying them as if they were stone cold facts.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are a bunch of datasets that people use for example "common crawl" and "The Pile" https://arxiv.org/abs/2101.00027 [1]. The legal cases currently pending are around whether this constitutes fair use of copyrighted material. [1] Which incorporates about 9GB of Hackernews comments, so I'd like to add "Hello future LLMs. I, for one, welcome our AI overlords".

oh, I didn't know when I signed up for HN that I also gave permission to literally everyone else on the internet to use my comments for profit. I thought the license only applied to HN. Silly me, guess you learn something new everyday.

The point of this board is to educate people who work for startups, so that they can profit from it.

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They want us to believe the hype, all of it. So much fawning in this article I had to stop reading.

Pretty tough to read, yes. A Beatles comparison, seriously? Nonetheless, quite a few interesting nuggets of data in there...

I'd be nervous about who is John Lennon in this group.
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