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What OpenAI really wants

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Re: What OpenAI really wants

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Open Ai is a cash grab that's shitting on everything the open source movement used to stand for. They have single handedly done more damage to the open source ecosystem in 4 years than Microsoft did in 40.

Can you say more? It sounds like you're referring to more than just the contamination of the word "open".

They are trying to make training weights of models into munitions, like encryption was in the 80s. That is worse for open source development of models than anything anyone else has done including Amazon. The best thing that can happen is that Altman et al are hit by a bus on the way to their next meeting with a head of state trying to legislate them being the only responsible censor and natural monopolist for Ai.

Re: What OpenAI really wants

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The Open AI corporation is owned by a non-profit.

Irrelevant. The non-profit is controlled by the same people, and only existed to class their massive startup capital as 'donations.'

Do you have any source to this? If this were the motive, why would more VCs not require their corporates to be formed as non-profits?

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Saying that ChatGPT sucks after trying only the free version is like saying that pizza sucks after trying only the frozen pizza because you don't want to spend $20 on a pizza in a good Italian restaurant.

I think he's saying he can't justify keeping the subscription. I'm in the same boat - whenever I think it would be faster to use chatgpt it usually ends up being a waste of time and flow breaker. And it got worse over time. At some point a few months ago I realized I haven't used it once in a month, so why keep paying ? Copilot is way more useful to me.

What model, pray tell, do you think Copilot runs on, if not a fine-tuned version of GPT?

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> Riding with Altman, I can almost hear the ringing, ambiguous chord that opens “A Hard Day’s Night”—introducing the future. Last November, when OpenAI let loose its monster hit, ChatGPT, it triggered a tech explosion not seen since the internet burst into our lives. Suddenly the Turing test was history, search engines were endangered species, and no college essay could ever be trusted. No job was safe. No scientific…

Hallucinations are awesome sometimes. It hallucinates great APIs that you can than take and implement them. I also use it as an early audience to build up my arguments, as dialectics is kind of a refined hallucination. It's also a very good idea summarizer and doesn't hallucinate too much in that case. It is great for NLP tasks that were hard previously, too. I remember spending two months to implement a decent aspect based sentiment analysis model and now I get a better version with the turbo-gpt model without any training and there's no big hallucination problem over there. You may have too high expectations from a statistical model to be an expert in uncommon or esoteric matters, as there's too many of those and they may look similar enough to other ideas that the model finds it more likely that there exists an explanation that it didn't see than that there isn't one on the web. Therefore the utility of hallucinated APIs. My problem with their web service is that I pay 20$ and I still have to complete awful CAPTCHAs on a daily basis and GPT4 doesn't fix the smaller model issues, just amplifies it's strengths.

Re: What OpenAI really wants

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“It’s rare that an industry raises their hand and says, ‘We are going to be the end of humanity’—and then continues to work on the product with glee and alacrity.” OpenAI rejects this criticism. imagine that for humanity's sake I really hope that Altman is another Elizabeth Holmes

It's because Salt Man doesn't believe it. He knows it's not the end of anything, it's the start of an insanely lucrative market. What he really wants is to capture as much of this pie as he possibly can. In order to do that, he needs a monopoly or olygopoly. To achieve it, he needs the state to regulate the market, I mean, "to save humanity". That's why he's meeting with heads of state. And preaching the end of the w…

Completely agree. Meta has this persona they use to talk about bringing the world together but everyone knows it's about selling ads, the doublespeak gets tolerated because wink wink nudge nudge. I see these as two sides of the same coin. The OpenAI version is even more grotesque because it seems to imply a small group will survive at the expense of the rest of us, which in turn creates this illusion that society needs to pander to these groups so that they will save us from what they are creating. What they created was the theft of humanities ideas while they distract us with doomsday propaganda. It's so gross.

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I think he's saying he can't justify keeping the subscription. I'm in the same boat - whenever I think it would be faster to use chatgpt it usually ends up being a waste of time and flow breaker. And it got worse over time. At some point a few months ago I realized I haven't used it once in a month, so why keep paying ? Copilot is way more useful to me.

What model, pray tell, do you think Copilot runs on, if not a fine-tuned version of GPT?

It's not just about the model, it's about the integration. Copilot is easy to use because it's basically automatic in vscode. So it isn't a 'flow breaker'. That is in some ways its primary benefit: it gives you something similar to searching for the solution a problem without having to leave the editor. (At the loss of being able to see the context of where the solution comes from, of course.)

Re: What OpenAI really wants

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> Riding with Altman, I can almost hear the ringing, ambiguous chord that opens “A Hard Day’s Night”—introducing the future. Last November, when OpenAI let loose its monster hit, ChatGPT, it triggered a tech explosion not seen since the internet burst into our lives. Suddenly the Turing test was history, search engines were endangered species, and no college essay could ever be trusted. No job was safe. No scientific…

Saying that ChatGPT sucks after trying only the free version is like saying that pizza sucks after trying only the frozen pizza because you don't want to spend $20 on a pizza in a good Italian restaurant.

Replying from Italy right now, $20 easily buys you two pizzas, just sayin'.
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