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uno reverse card play against US ban I see
Yes, except US is not trying to destroy China while China seems to be secretly dreaming of destroying the West and becoming a global authoritarian hegemon. All after the US did for them.
like sure, i suppose every nation dreams of being the top dog ruling the world, and China even has a realistic shot at it
but i never got any 'we want to destroy the west' vibes from China
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Both actions are perfectly reasonably justified by self-interest, and I don't see them saying it's anything else.
> Both actions are perfectly reasonably justified by self-interest If that's a justification then isn't every kind of hypocrisy justified by self-interest?
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Could the US government slip Tesla one of those nifty national security letters and get themselves a closet off some server room at Tesla HQ? It's not like they'd be spying on US citizens in China.
Sure, but data on Chinese users isn't allowed to leave China, so that Tesla HQ closet won't be very useful in this case.
There's no way that the Chinese gov actually believes that Chinese Tesla data stays in China.
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Not really, it's just tit-for-tat because Western governments banned use of phones from Chinese companies such as Huawei. It's the same game we've been playing for years.
Then they should have banned iPhone sales across China, as the US did with Huawei.
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>the West dominates You mean the US dominates. I don't see any EU, Canadian or Australian designed smart-phones, Office365, Google, Chat-GPT, AWS, I can buy reaching critical mass. Edit: INB4 the chip hipsters who found out about ASML during the pandemic chip shortage, chime in with "but muh ASML is European!". Yes, it is European(Dutch), it's also based on EUV tech licensed from the US, and has EUV light sources at…
> I don't see any EU, Canadian or Australian designed smart-phones, Office365, Google, Chat-GPT, AWS, I can buy reaching critical mass. ... EU, Canada, and the rest of the west are lacking in world dominating SW companies and rely exclusively on the US, which the US can always use as leverage. Reached critical mass, or even world-dominating: Nokia, RIM, Figma, Skype, Spotify, Hetzner > the US dominates ... by buying…
Not even close. All of those are meh in terms of market cap and have plenty of competition making them easily replaceable by US alternatives.
The likes of Apple, Nvidia, Office365, Google, are irreplaceable in the EU, and they could buy all of those companies if they wanted to.
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All major powers spy on everyone. It is a prerequisite for being a major power, and it always has been.
All major powers spy on everyone Can't we just say all nation states? It certainly isn't just major powers that have spy agencies. E.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_intelligence_agencies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Security_Agency_(South_A...
Wikipedia lists them for 122 countries [1], out of 206 [2]. So about 60%. Maybe a little higher if a few are missing.
I do wonder if there's also some kind of commonly accepted division within those that separates the "big guys" vs the "little guys", e.g. if there's a certain key spying ability that takes a certain level of funding and sophistication. I mean, I do have to assume that there is a qualitative difference between the kind of spying done by "major powers" and others.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intelligence_agencies
Expect more and more of this. The ultimate prize are technology standards, right now the West dominates that and China is actively trying to dethrone them. The world will sort itself in two camps again, Cold War is back functionally.
>the West dominates You mean the US dominates. I don't see any EU, Canadian or Australian designed smart-phones, Office365, Google, Chat-GPT, AWS, I can buy reaching critical mass. Edit: INB4 the chip hipsters who found out about ASML during the pandemic chip shortage, chime in with "but muh ASML is European!". Yes, it is European(Dutch), it's also based on EUV tech licensed from the US, and has EUV light sources at…
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>the West dominates You mean the US dominates. I don't see any EU, Canadian or Australian designed smart-phones, Office365, Google, Chat-GPT, AWS, I can buy reaching critical mass. Edit: INB4 the chip hipsters who found out about ASML during the pandemic chip shortage, chime in with "but muh ASML is European!". Yes, it is European(Dutch), it's also based on EUV tech licensed from the US, and has EUV light sources at…
> I don't see any EU, Canadian or Australian designed smart-phones, Office365, Google, Chat-GPT, AWS, I can buy reaching critical mass. ... EU, Canada, and the rest of the west are lacking in world dominating SW companies and rely exclusively on the US, which the US can always use as leverage. Reached critical mass, or even world-dominating: Nokia, RIM, Figma, Skype, Spotify, Hetzner > the US dominates ... by buying…