Also, as a PSA: Your local state government sells car registration data to data brokers and car manufacturers. It is often used for behavioral targeting.
Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla
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#112The more I read about these things, the more I think I'll be driving my 23 year old Toyota 4Runner until the end of my life
Not a bad plan. There might still be some options out there. The previous generation of Silverado (14-18?)you could get a work truck without OnStar or anything. Didn't even have a key fob or Bluetooth. Costs a hell of a lot less too.
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#113I've got a 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee and I've been searching for where the sim card is for the built in cellular modem so I can rip it out. It astounds me that there aren't more people interested in cutting off the constant telemetry and to be honest it wouldn't surprise me if the car refuses to operate correctly when I do figure out where it's at and pull it.
I am pretty sure that is (or soon will be) illegal in EU. Car needs to be able to call emergency, if accident is detected.
The manufacturer may have to legally include the functionality in cars they sell but in pretty sure the owner isn’t obligated to use or keep the functionality untouched.
By comparison if your seat belts are all frayed and you don’t wear them anyway that’s on you, manufacturer sold you a car with seat belts in good condition and that as far as the “compliance” requirement goes.
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#115I connect my phone to my 2015 Nissan's bluetooth, but just for music. GrapheneOS lets me prevent its access to my contacts, call history, active calls, text messages - anything but music audio. To me (but not the less tech literate, I know), if you're connecting your car to your phone, it's obvious that it is able to gather things about you. That said, because I don't know much about cars, I don't know if the car is…
The hell! You got a 2015 Nissan with Android Auto? I got a 2017 Infiniti that some trims did even come with Bluetooth, needless to say none had carplay or Android Auto. Damn you Nissan. But I bought that car because its something for me to tinker with and I plan to replace that proprietary head until with an after one. And also use an Arduino 4 inch LCD to tap into the Can bus to show Hvac settings.
doesn't say android auto, just the nissan bluetooth. it has voice commands and can access your contacts if you let it, so you hit the talk button on the steering wheel and say "Call Bob D" and it will call, etc. It's kind of jank. same thing with reading out received text messages while driving.
No android auto required.
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#116I've got a 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee and I've been searching for where the sim card is for the built in cellular modem so I can rip it out. It astounds me that there aren't more people interested in cutting off the constant telemetry and to be honest it wouldn't surprise me if the car refuses to operate correctly when I do figure out where it's at and pull it.
Check out the manual, find where the fuse is for the cellular modem, and remove it.
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#117I connect my phone to my 2015 Nissan's bluetooth, but just for music. GrapheneOS lets me prevent its access to my contacts, call history, active calls, text messages - anything but music audio. To me (but not the less tech literate, I know), if you're connecting your car to your phone, it's obvious that it is able to gather things about you. That said, because I don't know much about cars, I don't know if the car is…
I always wonder to what extent those opt outs actually do something. I remember reading about the “unsubscribe” button for emails that never really did anything.
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#118I think it will be a good differentiation factor in a few years, that a brand comes up with an offline car, i.e. a car that you just refuel/charge and drive - no telemetry/connected features involved. It may be a niche thing in future, but certainly something that would be appealing to me as a consumer.
I don't think so. tell it to the privacy focused television companies.
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#119Car dealerships are notoriously horrible about privacy as well. The last time I bought a car at a dealership they wanted me to sign a release that allowed them to use photos and videos of me as part of their television and online advertisement. They were stunned when I refused and threatened to nix the whole deal and I challenged them to do exactly that before (of course) a manager was summoned and eventually I was t…
They have no respect for privacy. I use a Ford.com@domain.com to request a quote from Ford's official website. Apparently Ford shared my information with a dealer. That makes sense, but the dealer continued to email me and advertise cars from other manufacturers.
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#120Okay so you wanna hear something absolutely horrifying? My new CPAP machine has a 4G modem and it shares all my sleep data with the company. There’s some people at the local office who can tell precisely when I’m asleep and how asleep I am. Could you possibly want any better data for when to rob someone? I’ve put the thing in airplane mode and they called saying they can’t get the data needed for the first month, req…
It just seems to get worse and worse. We desperately need a consumer privacy bill of rights.