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Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Post by pard68 »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #54
pard68 wrote: post #45

Things like this are a part of why my newest vehicle is an '04 Suburban.

But that won’t be an option in a few . How many 2015 cars will be on the road and for sale in 2035?

I also have an '54 Chevy, a '62 CJ, a '69 wagon, a '68 Suburban, and a '84 Ford. I have a pretty good track record of keeping old things running well. Eventually my new cars (01 and two 03s) will cease to be repairable, but I have invested time and money in a very well maintained fleet of older vehicles, it's one of my only practical hobbies.

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Post by pard68 »

bob1029 wrote: post #62
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that won’t be an option in a few . How many 2015 cars will be on the road and for sale in 2035?

It's always going to be an option if you can afford it.

Or have skills and time

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Post by giantg2 »

vanilla_nut wrote: post #41
9g3890fj2 wrote: post #9

I connect my phone to my 2015 Nissan's bluetooth, but just for music. GrapheneOS lets me prevent its access to my contacts, call history, active calls, text messages - anything but music audio. To me (but not the less tech literate, I know), if you're connecting your car to your phone, it's obvious that it is able to gather things about you. That said, because I don't know much about cars, I don't know if the car is…

One more reason I'm glad I connect my phone with a headphone jack. Just an analog connection carrying audio. The car doesn't even know what it's playing, as far as I know. Though some cars do seem to extract track names and artist names over the aux jack, so I think there's a little more than just an analog signal?

Possibly a side channel digital encoding of the track information, similar to how radio stations can display things like track name on your car radio. But I'm not really sure.

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Post by mikece »

Car dealerships are notoriously horrible about privacy as well. The last time I bought a car at a dealership they wanted me to sign a release that allowed them to use photos and videos of me as part of their television and online advertisement. They were stunned when I refused and threatened to nix the whole deal and I challenged them to do exactly that before (of course) a manager was summoned and eventually I was taken to an office to complete the purchase where I could not be accidentally caught on video or photos which would result in them getting sued for using my image and likeness.

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Post by jollyllama »

bob1029 wrote: post #62
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that won’t be an option in a few . How many 2015 cars will be on the road and for sale in 2035?

It's always going to be an option if you can afford it.

Have you seen what new cars cost? People are paying more and getting less, in terms of privacy and simplicity.

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Post by userbinator »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #54
pard68 wrote: post #45

Things like this are a part of why my newest vehicle is an '04 Suburban.

But that won’t be an option in a few . How many 2015 cars will be on the road and for sale in 2035?

It might actually be less than 1975 cars.

Most of the parts for a pre-computerised car can be made in a decent machine shop. The computers and software for newer cars are a huge contrast from that.

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Post by throw3747874747 »

nhance wrote: post #2

I've got a 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee and I've been searching for where the sim card is for the built in cellular modem so I can rip it out. It astounds me that there aren't more people interested in cutting off the constant telemetry and to be honest it wouldn't surprise me if the car refuses to operate correctly when I do figure out where it's at and pull it.

I am pretty sure that is (or soon will be) illegal in EU. Car needs to be able to call emergency, if accident is detected.
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