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Come downstairs or we’ll eat your order, delivery workers tell customers

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Re: Come downstairs or we’ll eat your order, delivery workers tell customers

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Ehhh no ethical consumption and all that but I’m gonna have to go ahead and disagree with that last sentence. If I become aware of a business treating workers poorly I’m inclined to find an alternative.

It seems like their market is a duopoly, so finding an alternative may not be possible.

Not ordering delivery is an alternative

Re: Come downstairs or we’ll eat your order, delivery workers tell customers

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I mean - after expenses, they're getting paid like $8 per hour. It sucks, sure. But what level of service do you expect for non-livable wages?

Sure, but that was true 20+ years ago too and they came to your door. I don't disagree with the larger point per se, I just find it interesting that it changed.

Is it the proliferation of giant condo buildings? Cities like Toronto went from having cloisters of 10-15 story concrete appartement blocks to having tons of much taller condo buildings all over in the last 20ish years. More than a few have questionable elevator situations too. There's even viral tiktok videos about residents waiting 20-30 minutes for elevators. Would you want to deliver to the door in a building like that?

Re: Come downstairs or we’ll eat your order, delivery workers tell customers

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Sounds like they should add a toggle in the app to get that extra service for extra payment.

That's an idea, but it sounds like the risk to the deliverer of doing that in Rio de Janeiro is quite high.

Add the toggle. When a Rio de Janeiro customer clicks the toggle to request doorstep delivery, pop up an error dialog saying that doorstep delivery is not available in this area for driver safety.

With this setup:

The feature exists if the company wants to support it in certain areas.

It is not supported in RdJ and other dangerous areas.

Expectations are clearly communicated.

Re: Come downstairs or we’ll eat your order, delivery workers tell customers

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US perspective (eg theft of bikes / crime is not AS serious a problem as Brazil, although it can be bad): I'm a bit torn here. On the one hand, I fully empathize with the delivery drivers (particularly if the rules / policy of the app is NOT doorstep delivery) and where theft is a real issue. However, as a (US) consumer, where the apps DO allow us to request doorstep delivery, I think there is no issue with consumers…

Sorry, but it is insane that people that live in areas with no parking can request doorstep delivery in the United States. People that live on the 10th story of a luxury high rise in the downtown of a major city with a 5 minute security process will request doorstep delivery, forcing drivers to occupy driving lanes for minutes with their hazards thrown as they navigate the byzantine favela that the villager has reque…

Where does the mail truck park for deliveries. Other delivery persons can just do that. If the building has no lanes at all, then that's nobody's fault but the building owner. You can wait behind the delivery vehicle a couple minutes.

Re: Come downstairs or we’ll eat your order, delivery workers tell customers

#126
When they started including maps with GPS tracking in delivery apps I was so happy because I could actually run down and meet them. I totally understand that some people are just lazy and disrespectful but to me it's a given that you at least go down to your gate. Not only because there is no way for the delivery people to get in, but also because it saves time and I'm not disabled.

Re: Come downstairs or we’ll eat your order, delivery workers tell customers

#127
post #42

US perspective (eg theft of bikes / crime is not AS serious a problem as Brazil, although it can be bad): I'm a bit torn here. On the one hand, I fully empathize with the delivery drivers (particularly if the rules / policy of the app is NOT doorstep delivery) and where theft is a real issue. However, as a (US) consumer, where the apps DO allow us to request doorstep delivery, I think there is no issue with consumers…

Where I deliver with Uber Eats, the vast majority of deliveries are simple things where I basically drop it off curbside. Only occasionally must I climb five flights of stairs. Am I compensated extra for your stairs? No. Do I thumbs down those deliveries? Only if the apartments are poorly marked and I end up having to climb three separate flights of stairs looking for your apartment.

Re: Come downstairs or we’ll eat your order, delivery workers tell customers

#128

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This is tough, but there is an easy solution: delivery apps provide a way to communicate with the delivery worker, explain your situation, potentially offer a better tip for the service. They will come to your door.

Sure, easy solution! Door dash provides such a mechanism wherein I can let the driver know how I would like to receive my order. In fact, for several years now I have used this feature, signaling that I would like the order to be delivered to my door. Fingers crossed for when the majority of delivery drivers actually start reading it! > explain your situation, potentially offer a better tip for the service At some po…

These are the kinds of armchair moralizing stories about the service industry that the consumer class actually believes about themselves. 99.9% of the time when people would say "If they would've done it, they would have gotten a tip for it..." it's just not true. Drivers are not getting tipped for spending 45 minutes walking around apartment buildings trying to find elevators and struggling to read the font-of-the-month printed on doors and they have to do this dozens of times every day in order to get $2.50, the base pay for a doordash order, and to make an annual salary that is a rounding error of the salaries of the people that they are delivering to. I get it, life is unfair, and not everyone can make the same amount of money. But don't act like we live in a paradise that doesn't have extreme inequality and class tension when you use an app that summons a member of the underclass to do your bidding for $18k per annum and they are rude or have a fucking attitude with you.

Re: Come downstairs or we’ll eat your order, delivery workers tell customers

#129
post #42

US perspective (eg theft of bikes / crime is not AS serious a problem as Brazil, although it can be bad): I'm a bit torn here. On the one hand, I fully empathize with the delivery drivers (particularly if the rules / policy of the app is NOT doorstep delivery) and where theft is a real issue. However, as a (US) consumer, where the apps DO allow us to request doorstep delivery, I think there is no issue with consumers…

Sorry, but it is insane that people that live in areas with no parking can request doorstep delivery in the United States. People that live on the 10th story of a luxury high rise in the downtown of a major city with a 5 minute security process will request doorstep delivery, forcing drivers to occupy driving lanes for minutes with their hazards thrown as they navigate the byzantine favela that the villager has reque…

> their $8 Mcdonalds order be brought to.

Their $8 McDonalds order with a $14 delivery fee.

Look, the customer base for Uber eats is lazy. That’s why they are ordering McDonalds delivery in the first place. Guilting them for meeting at the door isn’t going to work.

In New York, if I’m coming to the door to meet the delivery, then I may as well just walk the 1/4 block to get it myself.

Delivery has figured out how to get to hallway doors for 50-100 years. This is a solved problem.

If drivers don’t want to fully deliver then don’t do delivery.

Now I live in the burbs and ordered Uber eats for my family and the driver wouldn’t drop off food to my door and called to say come out to the driveway to pick up my food. It was kind of weird. They sat in the driveway and wouldn’t bring the food to the door.

This is very different from Brazilian inner city or even an urban setting but it was strange that the driver didn’t want to walk the 30 steps from my driveway to the door.

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