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Why I’m betting on Nostr

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Re: Why I’m betting on Nostr

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Post by BoorishBears »

unboxingelf wrote: post #153
BoorishBears wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your system is so poorly secured there is no value in tampering with the message: I can just say I'm you and tweet. A tweet is not a direct message, it's a broadcast message. Without a centralized 3rd party mapping names to public keys, the identity of the sender can be set to whatever you want. Your model only works for non-tweets where I'm sending to people I had communication with in the past and was able to verif…

That’s not true. There are methods for proving control of a key, both in the protocol and outside. - Sharing keys in person - Sharing keys via other channels like Twitter - Via DNS using NIP-05

> A tweet is not a direct message, it's a broadcast message.

> Without a centralized 3rd party mapping names to public keys

Sharing in person doesn't work for broadcasting

Other channels require falling back to some non-decentralized system.

Again, it's the oracle problem. You can't say it's not true, that's like saying "1+1=2" is not true.

Re: Why I’m betting on Nostr

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dang wrote: post #79

Related. Others? New content moderation system for Nostr - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37343373 - Aug 2023 (2 comments) Social Media is broken. Can we fix it [with nostr]? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36698217 - July 2023 (1 comment) How to verify your domain on Nostr and Bluesky (for micro.blog users) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36646598 - July 2023 (40 comments) Show HN: Zapddit – a Re…

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Re: Why I’m betting on Nostr

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Post by JAlexoid »

mik1998 wrote: post #82
JAlexoid wrote: post #16

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Meaningful ant-spam is resource heavy operation. Maybe if AI models are portable/accessible enough to run on a small system - we'd reduce the amount of manual work required... Talk to anyone who tried running their own private mailserver. SMTP is a decentralized open and very simple protocol - yet that doesn't address the issues that keep people away from hosting their own mailservers.

Anti-spam is one of those things that get very overblown when a lot of it can be quite easily solved. Simple bayesian spam filtering annihilates most spam. > Talk to anyone who tried running their own private mailserver I run a mailserver and spam is actually not a big issue for me at all. Blocking hosts with no rDNS, residential IPs and no dkim already blocks all the spammers who simply scan all the IP addresses and…

Sorry, it's not. Modern spam filtering requires a lot of training data. Most spam that I would get - would easily bypass any small scale spam filtering operation.

My SpamAssasin 10 years ago would flag too many legitimate emails... while allowing genuine spam. The amount of crap I would get to my personal email was so bad, that I just switched to GMail for the simplicity.

It's just not worth the effort. Like it's just not worth the effort in investing into a decentralized social network at this point.

Maybe if the spam filtering protocols were public, trainable on all of the data(which isn't going to happen on a privacy focused network, ever), objectively efficient at catching spam... and runnable on even RaspberryPi 3 - you're just going to get spammed out of existence.

Re: Why I’m betting on Nostr

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Post by JAlexoid »

DANmode wrote: post #164
JAlexoid wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That random person that this pitch is supposed convince to use it.

Point was: pitches should be given with the receiver in mind.

Agreed.

Posting your pitch on a technical public forum should have a random critically minded technical person in mind.

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