Those climate protesters who tried to blockade the entrance are probably laughing now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8fDM60MS84 (Though it seems unlikely that a particular rainstorm could be attributed to climate change.)
Pretty disappointing how big of a jerk that one burner guy appears to be, including physically intimidating behavior. I don't know much about BM ethos but this is not the sort of person I want to be spending time around
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Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm
#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are not 40 miles from the nearest road at Burning Man. You are a couple of miles from the nearest road.
Don’t worry buddy I don’t think mud physically moves roads further away. A couple miles of hard-to-navigate terrain and a bit of hubris is plenty to kill someone.
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#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It'll dry up and be like it never happened in no time. With more rain slated for today and Sunday, and the fact that it ends on Monday, I wouldn't be so optimistic.
I live in Utah and have spent a lot of time on and around dry like beds. They do not “dry up quickly”. A quarter inch under the crust is likely going to be mud for weeks or months. Some vehicles might be fine but heavy ones are in deep $&@! until they are recovered. Just my uninformed opinion.
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#254Earlier quoted context omitted.
They can if they'd like to, but they're unable. The kind of mud they're dealing with is very slippery, so, unless you bring a vehicle specifically designed for it, you're not going to be able to drive on it without being sunk up to your axles.
there's a good image of a jeep that attempted to drive out that is fossilized half way up in dried mud at this point
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#255Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> without prompt attention nope. there is no prompt attention in the current situation as noted in the paper incidence of fat embolism approaches 30% many undiagnosed incidence are discovered post mortem. you are attempting to minimize a dangerous situation. =========== >> EPIDEMIOLOGY The incidence of FES ranges from Bulger et al.,[3] in their retrospective study, reported an incidence of 2. Georgopoulos D, Bouros…
Your own refs point out it is usually not a problem, and there are very low occurancy rates. The situations it’s a problem, it’s obvious that there was a severe break. The folks seeing higher rates are seeing them because their samples are coming from data sets with specific trauma backgrounds. Which is not surprising. If you look at postmortem results for people who died with broken bones, those folks all had severe…
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#256The live webcam from Burning Man is still up. https://burningman.org/live-webcast/ The camera rotates randomly once in a while, so you can see everything. Not raining much, if at all. Some mud. Overcast. Maybe 75 people total are wandering around in the mud. A few random art installations. Everybody else is probably in the big RV park. Looks boring, but not dangerous.
Exit road still unusable for non-offroad vehicles. Current plans are to reopen it on Monday 4 September. Sanitation trucks are now servicing porta-potties again. Comm, power, and emergency services are up.
The actual "burn" is now scheduled for 2100 Monday 4 September. Maybe.
Reno Airport does not have space for people who escape, but Reno hotels do.
"Participants are not being detained. ... The Burning Man organization’s advice is for participants to delay their departures to avoid getting stuck in the mud, but people are free to leave should they choose to do so."
"The online rumors of transmissible illnesses in Black Rock City are unfounded and untrue."
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#257Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The man is not going to burn I promise you, the man will burn if the burners are at all dedicated to the cause. Dried wood only soaks a few millimeters of rain unless it's completely submerged for a very long time. Use an accelerant to get it started, and nature will do the rest.
Will they be allowed to? I imagine there is some sort of agreement with local/state government in place and this rain will already cause them to keep the camp up longer than was probably approved.
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#258Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your own refs point out it is usually not a problem, and there are very low occurancy rates. The situations it’s a problem, it’s obvious that there was a severe break. The folks seeing higher rates are seeing them because their samples are coming from data sets with specific trauma backgrounds. Which is not surprising. If you look at postmortem results for people who died with broken bones, those folks all had severe…
>> In this situation if it was serious they’d just get medivac’d then. there we go, good one.
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#259this definitely sounds like a headline from the same country that blew 2.3 trillion dollars on a 20 year war in afghanistan to replace the taliban with the taliban, and yet somehow their own citizens trapped at a festival are just going to have to conserve food and water until things get better because nothing can be done. Americans posting in the comments will do backflips to insist this is the best way things are s…
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#260Fortunately all the participants embraced radial self-reliance, right?