Oof:
> From the 1920s until the 1970s, the Swiss government had a semi-official policy of institutionalizing Yenish parents and having their children adopted by members of the sedentary Swiss population.
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#22At first I thought this was about a variant of the Romani people, due to having talked just a few days ago with an Italian guy who was half Jewish and half Romani. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people We had a talk about the Romani, the discrimination against them, and some other interesting topics. I mentioned to him that, as a teenager, I had read a book titled Lavengro, a fictional work about a gypsy, by…
> At first I thought this was about a variant of the Romani people, due to having talked just a few days ago with an Italian guy who was half Jewish and half Romani.
In the history of Europe, there were several of these nomadic/itinerant groups on the margins of society. They had distinct languages/cultures/origins, but occupied similar societal niches. Due to that similarity, there was a certain degree of interchange/movement/intermarriage between these groups. Romani language and culture originally comes from northern India; the Yenish spoke a dialect of German. However, that dialect included Romani loanwords, suggesting a history of interaction/intermarriage with Romani and/or absorption of Romani into their community. Their language also includes some Yiddish loanwords, suggesting a similar history of interaction with some Jewish people
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#23Oof: > From the 1920s until the 1970s, the Swiss government had a semi-official policy of institutionalizing Yenish parents and having their children adopted by members of the sedentary Swiss population.
When reading that passage, it reminded me of Australia's "stolen generation". Terrible injustice.
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#24I’m not sure, but does it seem like a stretch to suggest that current homeless problems in the West are part of some nomadic subculture, that’s framed within the medical model as mental illness?
Yeah that’s a gigantic stretch.
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#25Many comments here are along the lines of: "we have ... gypsies ... here too and they are called ...". I recently visited a museum in (Kingston upon) Hull - 'ull. The Streetlife one. A wall board managed to describe most of the wandering tribes hereabouts (UK and Éire), where they hail from, their modus operandi, a brief history and how to refer to them with a fair chance of not causing offence. I had no idea that Ro…
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#26Oof: > From the 1920s until the 1970s, the Swiss government had a semi-official policy of institutionalizing Yenish parents and having their children adopted by members of the sedentary Swiss population.
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#27Many comments here are along the lines of: "we have ... gypsies ... here too and they are called ...". I recently visited a museum in (Kingston upon) Hull - 'ull. The Streetlife one. A wall board managed to describe most of the wandering tribes hereabouts (UK and Éire), where they hail from, their modus operandi, a brief history and how to refer to them with a fair chance of not causing offence. I had no idea that Ro…
> I had no idea that Roma and Romany were not the same thing ...
They aren't? Would you mind saying more about what this?
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#28I’m not sure, but does it seem like a stretch to suggest that current homeless problems in the West are part of some nomadic subculture, that’s framed within the medical model as mental illness?
Massive stretch. There's lots of publications about the progression to homelessness, like https://web.archive.org/web/20150614052612/http://www.thecyr... so no reason to raise extreme theories. Lots of people are just a couple of bad events away from homelessness.
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#29Oof: > From the 1920s until the 1970s, the Swiss government had a semi-official policy of institutionalizing Yenish parents and having their children adopted by members of the sedentary Swiss population.
You would be surprised to find out when Swiss women got right to vote
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where do they go in winter? That being said, a nomadic lifestyle sounds so interesting and romantic. Too bad most nomads are heavily discriminated against.
For a while I really wanted to be a Bedouin. In the end it just didn’t seem to be realistic. I ended up getting a job like everyone else. It just didn’t seem right.
I think that’s the thing, actually; everyone needs something different, by their nature, how they were raised, and so on. Combine that with a deep sense of the grass being always greener on the other side, and it becomes super important not just to find happiness but to know it when you’ve found it.
My ex will never be happy, as she is unable to recognize happiness when she’s there. My wife, on the other hand, enjoys the moment, despite her ambition. It’s a huge part of why I married her.
I, too, have dreams of escaping to a log cabin in the woods, with nobody to tax me, nobody to bother me, and nobody to get in the way of the exciting things I want to do. Of course, if I did that, I’d quickly dive deep into depression; I’m an extrovert, who am I kidding?
But the dream remains all the same. :)