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Re: Shining a light on the digital dark age

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> Slack’s limited search history I'm sure that I don't know what you mean. My employer is on a paid plan for Slack, and searches cover everything, as far back as I wish to go. Are you thinking of the limitations on the free license?

Yes I mean free version which was good enough. The other great thing about slack is that anyone from company can start an account without IT’s approval…

Well, I would call that rather disingenuous, because "free trial Slack" is certainly not the default for businesses which actually depend on it, and it's not about search capability at all: it's about retention of data.

Re: Shining a light on the digital dark age

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Yes I mean free version which was good enough. The other great thing about slack is that anyone from company can start an account without IT’s approval…

Well, I would call that rather disingenuous, because "free trial Slack" is certainly not the default for businesses which actually depend on it, and it's not about search capability at all: it's about retention of data.

I’d argue a ton of slack business users were converted organically from free plans, but I have nothing to prove it with

Re: Shining a light on the digital dark age

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It will probably end up being the most popular things, the most viewed or read. More copies of it, more likely to be archived. This reminds me of books. I’m sure the majority of books from over a hundred years ago are lost because they weren’t popular. We haven’t really noticed their absence…

When you publish a book or magazine in France you’re required to give 2 copies to the national library for archive purpose. Doesn't something like that exist in other countries?

Apparently it was required by the Library of Congress in the U.S., but the Supreme Court might have nixxed that because of the Constitution's 4th Amendment (must be reimbursed if required to turn over property).

Re: Shining a light on the digital dark age

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> Without any backups floating around out there this stuff is gone forever I think part of the problem is that most backup efforts result in lawsuits. Related, I wonder how much the data stores, like those that OpenAI used, have preserved , and I wonder how much they will purge from their servers, to be lost forever, as the lawsuits increase. For Youtube, it also has compression rot. It's not a storage solution, as I…

> all the videos I uploaded have slowly reduced in resolution, bitrate, and quality, over the years. i know that feeling when i watch "old" stuff too, did you confirm this in any way or is just subjective? asking because after a while of watching pal/ntsc style content it becomes normal again.

Resolution after upload was 1080, but now it’s 480 with extremely low bitrate. I uploaded them to Vimeo also, where they’re still great quality.

Re: Shining a light on the digital dark age

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Just ran into this. Many companies I request my data from have retention periods and would rather be rid of it. Rare are a couple that do seem to keep _everything_ though

For backup, I do a manual data export across various online sites every few months. And some of them heavily nerf the data. Example: my Netflix data exports from two years ago include much more detail than the recent ones. Netflix is just now providing overall less details.

I wish someone would keep track of this, I hate when an internal policy change affects what data you can actually retrieve.

It's why I don't delete some of my accounts when I think I might be able to get more data in the future from some company

Re: Shining a light on the digital dark age

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I've played in 2 Diplomacy tournaments. won my first. lost my second. for the 1st, I had been playing regularly prior and had prepared well in advance. for the 2nd, I had zero prep, hadng played in 10+ years, and was a walk-on replacement for another player who was a no-show.

I can rightly say I am a Diplomacy tournament champion.

here's my problem. The 1st, that I won, was during The Digital Dark Age. around 1990

The 2nd, the no-prep walk-on that I lost, was like 15 years later. When everything was getting put on the web somehow, Google-able and archived etc

my Diplomacy record therefore is Heisenbergian. I am a champion... except if you Google to confirm it. in which case you'll see that I lost

both things are true. paradox FUN caused by the Digital Dark Age

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