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Shining a light on the digital dark age

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Re: Shining a light on the digital dark age

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One area where I expect this digital rot to have significant effects is with obituaries. It will likely frustrate the next few generations of genealogists hunting for records of early 21st century ancestors.

Obituaries that appeared in print newspapers during the 20th century were easily disseminated and decentrally archived (typically by loved ones and libraries), making them relatively rot-tolerant.

Distribution isn’t a problem for digital obituaries, and in many ways the web is better than print in this respect.

But when it comes to preservation, there are many factors that make digital obits in their current state particularly susceptible to rot. They tend to be centrally archived and often behind paywalls, making them susceptible to digital rot and difficult for organizations acting in the public interest to archive.

The for-profit company Legacy.com controls a strikingly large share of the market for digital obituaries. It partners with funeral homes and newspapers, and in many cases when a visitor browses obituaries on the website of a local newspaper or funeral home, they’re actually redirected to Legacy.com, which hosts the content.

Unfortunately, the newspapers and funeral homes themselves often don’t maintain their own copies of the obituaries. What happens if Legacy.com or one of the smaller memorial sites goes out of business or experiences some sort of data loss? Because of the centralized nature of how these digital obituaries are stored, it’s possible that very few other organizations will have archived copies of the content.

Re: Shining a light on the digital dark age

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Good. Every time we forget the old world, we reinvent it better

>Every time we forget the old world, we reinvent it better Historically that has not been the case for most of human history. As odd as it might seem, in general the rediscovery of the accomplishments ancient world has been a great driver towards progress. The periods when the accomplishments of the past were lost and fully forgotten were the sorts of times people call Dark Ages.

Are we currently in a Digital Dark Age because the pace of content creation has far outstripped our ability to preserve that content for posterity?

Obviously we can’t be sure how the current era will be viewed from the far future, but your comment made me realize that the current situation has similarities to that dark age.

Re: Shining a light on the digital dark age

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Attenuation of signal is how reality works.

Generational churn means eventually no one who knows why the nested dolls were nested as they are will be gone. Humans will create a new set of nested dolls they can grok.

Paraphrasing Thomas Jefferson; clearly the dead do not rule the living.

Edit; forgot this point… Maybe he said that; it’s unverifiable for us. Maintenance of hallucination is all it ends up.

Reality we see, smell, hear, and touch is what we get. There’s no violating physics. Let it be lost. It’s going to happen anyway.

Re: Shining a light on the digital dark age

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We should think of digital information more as graffiti. It won’t be around forever, I’ve seen most of the old web that I experienced as a child simply disappear, nothing but a memory now. Enjoy information while you have it, eventually it will be lost, like tears in the rain.

Re: Shining a light on the digital dark age

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I've been noticing this a lot lately in one of my little hobbies of Halloween events. There's so much history from events in the early 2000s that has been lost. So many links in ancient web forums that 404 and aren't in the Internet archive. Info from the 2010s is much better but still missing a lot of media. As an individual, I certainly don't have the resources of some of the organizations listed in this article bu…

Just yesterday I went searching for a memorial page for someone who died in 2005. It's still been maintained ever since then, and I was grateful to read through it again.

Even a single-file website with 2 photos can be important to somebody. Thanks.

Re: Shining a light on the digital dark age

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I think there is something to be said about what is worth archiving. I don't know what it is that should be said though. It seems weird to me that as a society we might be saving things such as a 10 hour video of white noise for another 100 years rather than some personal blogs. What is and isn't worth saving?

IMO social media got a little better once temporary stories came out.

Slack’s limited search history is a feature too - forces you to document using appropriate tools and not endless email threads…

Re: Shining a light on the digital dark age

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I think there is something to be said about what is worth archiving. I don't know what it is that should be said though. It seems weird to me that as a society we might be saving things such as a 10 hour video of white noise for another 100 years rather than some personal blogs. What is and isn't worth saving?

It will probably end up being the most popular things, the most viewed or read. More copies of it, more likely to be archived.

This reminds me of books. I’m sure the majority of books from over a hundred years ago are lost because they weren’t popular. We haven’t really noticed their absence…

Re: Shining a light on the digital dark age

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I love to see more interest in the topic of digital continuity.

My philosophy around this is "File over app" — if you want to create digital artifacts that last, they must be files you can control, in formats that are easy to retrieve and read. Use tools that give you this freedom.

In the fullness of time, the files you create are more important than the tools you use to create them. Apps are ephemeral, but your files have a chance to last.

https://stephanango.com/file-over-app

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