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No way in or out of Burning Man after storm
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#82Live webcam: https://burningman.org/live-webcast/ Looks empty. Either few got in or most left.
Everyone is still there hanging out in the camping section. Riding a bike or walking on the wet playa is super tough as it cakes everywhere and super slippery. Not there now but was there when I rained a bunch in 2014.
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#83Folks, the article is breathless and ridiculous. As someone who is not there, but who has been there four times and run build lead for my camp... Rain is not unheard of. It's probably pretty muddy and less fun than it normally would be. Nobody is starving or dying of dehydration, and there is no danger of that. Most camps (and many people) have a huge surplus of supplies. Last time I was there, I drove out with a few…
Original forecast called for 1 day of rain at .3". Forecast as of now has 3 days of rain and a total of 1". Government involvement will incur a fee to the org. All the BLM LEO rolled off playa to avoid this.
Just an inch of rain over 3 days doesn't sound that bad. Wind, hail and lightning are more pressing dangers if big thunderclouds develop.
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#84Folks, the article is breathless and ridiculous. As someone who is not there, but who has been there four times and run build lead for my camp... Rain is not unheard of. It's probably pretty muddy and less fun than it normally would be. Nobody is starving or dying of dehydration, and there is no danger of that. Most camps (and many people) have a huge surplus of supplies. Last time I was there, I drove out with a few…
Lack of easy transportation can quickly turn a merely inconvenient or uncomfortable situation into an extremely dangerous one.
Break a leg in front of the hospital? Super minor.
Break a leg 40 miles from the nearest road? Extremely serious.
Mud, especially with huge numbers of people, has a way of turning the former situation into the latter situation rather quickly.
Also who’s being breathless? The article didn’t mention FEMA.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Original forecast called for 1 day of rain at .3". Forecast as of now has 3 days of rain and a total of 1". Government involvement will incur a fee to the org. All the BLM LEO rolled off playa to avoid this.
Just an inch of rain over 3 days doesn't sound that bad. Wind, hail and lightning are more pressing dangers if big thunderclouds develop.
One hundredth of an inch impacts travel on the dried lake bed
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#86Folks, the article is breathless and ridiculous. As someone who is not there, but who has been there four times and run build lead for my camp... Rain is not unheard of. It's probably pretty muddy and less fun than it normally would be. Nobody is starving or dying of dehydration, and there is no danger of that. Most camps (and many people) have a huge surplus of supplies. Last time I was there, I drove out with a few…
Lack of easy transportation can quickly turn a merely inconvenient or uncomfortable situation into an extremely dangerous one. Break a leg in front of the hospital? Super minor. Break a leg 40 miles from the nearest road? Extremely serious. Mud, especially with huge numbers of people, has a way of turning the former situation into the latter situation rather quickly. Also who’s being breathless? The article didn’t me…
Breaking a leg isn't serious if medical transportation is available, and it sounds like it is.
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#87Folks, the article is breathless and ridiculous. As someone who is not there, but who has been there four times and run build lead for my camp... Rain is not unheard of. It's probably pretty muddy and less fun than it normally would be. Nobody is starving or dying of dehydration, and there is no danger of that. Most camps (and many people) have a huge surplus of supplies. Last time I was there, I drove out with a few…
If you're there, shelter in place, and listen to people who are more experienced. This helps the medics.
Typically many medical issues are straightforward to triage and treat with field kits. Then the medics ask the person's friends to drive the person to Reno for more in-depth care.
Examples in my experience are twisted ankles, broken arms, alcohol sickness, dehydration, cardiac events, infections, lost prescriptions, overdoses, electrocutions, eye scratches, falls from heights, power tool slips, cold exposure, and of course burns.
This year, it turns out the timing of the rain makes for new kinds of challenges for the medics, because they're unable to use many of the transport vehicles that are akin to golf carts. And the medics are currently unable to refer people to Reno.
In a city of 70K+ people who planned for 5 days on average, now stuck for 3 more days because of the rain, estimate 50%+ more medical issues. And no way currently to drive to Reno.
In parallel, some generators will run out of gas supplies, some portas and bathrooms will run out of supplies and servicing, some heaters will run out of propane, etc. This combination tends to make people uneasy and somewhat irrational.
This is why shelter in place is important: it helps reduce accidents and injuries, and helps people to feel calm and think clearly. Help the medics and volunteers by staying put, being more careful than usual, and helping people as you can.
The advice to conserve supplies, and keep warm, is not because the whole city is likely to run out or freeze-- it's because medics want to minimize people wandering around the city seeking supplies, and want to keep people in good physical health and good mental health.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rain like this is rare buts it’s shut down exit like this before, this isn’t unprecedented. Even during a normal year they shut down entry/exit when sandstorms reduce visibility - often for a couple of hours every few days.
Sandstorms are obvious a problem. But why rain? There's a road leading up there, right? (or at least somewhere near the festival grounds). Most people will come by car or RV. They can still drive on that road I'd think? If the festival grounds turn to mud, well... maybe a little detour to get back on that road. (personally I'd be in no hurry to leave. But if you wanted to, what's holding you back? Organisers saying "…
It's not regular mud, and you can't really drive on it. It builds up on the wheels and can be pretty deep. It's closer to clay.
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#89Folks, the article is breathless and ridiculous. As someone who is not there, but who has been there four times and run build lead for my camp... Rain is not unheard of. It's probably pretty muddy and less fun than it normally would be. Nobody is starving or dying of dehydration, and there is no danger of that. Most camps (and many people) have a huge surplus of supplies. Last time I was there, I drove out with a few…
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Have you been to burning man, because it sounds like you have not.
Food and water is everywhere. They will not run out unless this thing lasts another week.
If some people run out, others will have extra. Of this I am 100% sure.
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#90Those climate protesters who tried to blockade the entrance are probably laughing now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8fDM60MS84
(Though it seems unlikely that a particular rainstorm could be attributed to climate change.)