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Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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I've been to BM during a rainy event - the playa silt is so fine, that when walking around, it built up layers upon layers on the bottom of your shoes, and pretty soon you were walking around in lifted Disco Mud Boots with like 6 inches of mud on the bottoms of your feet.

Was no fun.

Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

#72
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Last time I was there in the rain I remember walking was quite difficult since every step added 4-6 inches to your height.

Can you make a snowshoe like device to help with this? Not saying to do so and hope everyone comes out merely a bit dirtier than normal.

Snow doesn't stick to your shoes the same way mud does. Snow shoes are meant to distribute your weight over a larger surface area to prevent you from sinking down. With mud, it's not so much sinking down as it is clinging to your shoes.

Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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The article paints a pretty dire picture. Having never been to that part of the world, is the nearest place that could support Reno? I assume this would need a post-hurricane type support airdrop of supplies?

It's really only a couple of hours by car or truck, on well paved streets. Gerlach is the small town on the edge of the park, they have at least places to stage rescue/supply events.

The issues is car's can't drive in the mud. When it rains, in less than 10 feet, your cars tires will be 50 submerged. So you can't even make it 100 ft, much less to the paved road to Gerlach.

Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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Yep turns to a caustic mud. There was a weird weather modification attempt during the 2000 one. Mandated curfew one night everyone ordered to stay in their camps events canceled. Sunny day and 4 huge military cargo aircraft come from east circle and head south then weather came from south west and windy that night. Anyways what ever happened the playa gets less comfortable when it's wet and cool.

Do you mean caustic as in the dictionaty definition of caustic? That is, the mud on the playa turns corrosive when mixed with water?

The playas in Nevada aren't "dirt" in the conventional sense. They are covered in layers of alkali salts that precipitated out of the lakes that used to be there, with chemistry influenced by Nevada's active volcanic geology. It can be quite corrosive and you probably don't want to subject your skin to it for extended periods of time. Nevada has a very wide range of pH found in nature due to its geochemistry.

Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

#77
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Folks, the article is breathless and ridiculous. As someone who is not there, but who has been there four times and run build lead for my camp... Rain is not unheard of. It's probably pretty muddy and less fun than it normally would be. Nobody is starving or dying of dehydration, and there is no danger of that. Most camps (and many people) have a huge surplus of supplies. Last time I was there, I drove out with a few…

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Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

#78
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Live webcam: https://burningman.org/live-webcast/ Looks empty. Either few got in or most left.

I watched this for a little bit, it does pan over to the campground which is packed full of tents/tarps/cars. But the "main event" area is totally barren you are correct.

Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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Is it normal to not be able to leave burning man (airport shut down, no cars, no bikes?) I’ve never been. But the feeling of being stranded with no possible way of leaving would have me going crazy in about 3 hours.

Rain like this is rare buts it’s shut down exit like this before, this isn’t unprecedented. Even during a normal year they shut down entry/exit when sandstorms reduce visibility - often for a couple of hours every few days.

Sandstorms are obvious a problem.

But why rain? There's a road leading up there, right? (or at least somewhere near the festival grounds). Most people will come by car or RV. They can still drive on that road I'd think?

If the festival grounds turn to mud, well... maybe a little detour to get back on that road.

(personally I'd be in no hurry to leave. But if you wanted to, what's holding you back? Organisers saying "road closed"?)

Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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Rain like this is rare buts it’s shut down exit like this before, this isn’t unprecedented. Even during a normal year they shut down entry/exit when sandstorms reduce visibility - often for a couple of hours every few days.

Sandstorms are obvious a problem. But why rain? There's a road leading up there, right? (or at least somewhere near the festival grounds). Most people will come by car or RV. They can still drive on that road I'd think? If the festival grounds turn to mud, well... maybe a little detour to get back on that road. (personally I'd be in no hurry to leave. But if you wanted to, what's holding you back? Organisers saying "…

The event is held several miles “into” the dry lake bed - once you get off the paved road, you drive about 1.5 miles on the dry lake bed before you get to the “gate” of the event boundaries. You can see this pretty clearly if you look up its location on Google maps. Right now, the event is completely surrounded, for miles, by muddy lake bed. If you tried to drive your wheels would get jammed up.
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