There is an easy way to fix this: make the companies collecting the data be criminally liable for any misuse or leaks of this data. Something with teeth, such x% of total revenue, not our current “sorry, we leaked your data, tough for you” If this data is so important it should be treated with the same care & auditing that their income stream gets.
The problem of creeping commercial surveillance (2022)
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#42I mean, I know its not practical for everyone or every application - that being said I have made it my highest priority to go out of my way to not use services or products that require apps to be installed. Obviously I make exceptions for stuff I deem "required" but for coffee chains, fast food restaurants, grocery stores and other services if they need an "app" for me to use it. I just won't use it. Or I will go out…
Or a "discount" for using the app. /s
Re: The problem of creeping commercial surveillance (2022)
#43They're not just storing and using this data for their own private/commercial purposes. They're also licensing it and selling it to third parties, which in turn will sell it to government(s) or other third-parties; the data ramifies and spreads throughout the digital panopticon. There is very little you can do as an individual to escape this. The privacy settings on your phone, in your apps, on your laptop, your rout…
>Heavy top-down regulation won't work, never has. That's utter nonsense. There will never be perfect compliance, but regulations absolutely can curb undesired behavior.
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#44I did an experiment: I deleted all the cookies using privacy settings of my browser then I avoid to click anything about cookies' authorisation, i.e. if a page present that kind of requests I immediately close the page itself. At the and, I verified that cookies are presente on browser's storage despite my absence of authorisation, even third parties cookies. So, yes, I agree: commercial surveillance is creepy and I…
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Re: The problem of creeping commercial surveillance (2022)
#45They're not just storing and using this data for their own private/commercial purposes. They're also licensing it and selling it to third parties, which in turn will sell it to government(s) or other third-parties; the data ramifies and spreads throughout the digital panopticon. There is very little you can do as an individual to escape this. The privacy settings on your phone, in your apps, on your laptop, your rout…
It's also worth mentioning that "they" includes entities that you have never heard of and have never had a business relationship with. Basically nothing can be done other than strict legislation. Claiming that top down regulation won't work is not based on evidence and is needlessly fatalistic. If anything, history shows that the thing big corporations fear most is having their profits regulated away. Of course they…
The "Copy-paste panopticon"
Re: The problem of creeping commercial surveillance (2022)
#46Been using DuckDuckGo's app privacy protection, some of the requests are just crazy, and from applications I haven't opened in months.
What does that do that using uBlock with a decent block list doesn't? Not trying to be contrarian here, genuinely curious and wondering if I should install it on my phone.
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#48I mean, I know its not practical for everyone or every application - that being said I have made it my highest priority to go out of my way to not use services or products that require apps to be installed. Obviously I make exceptions for stuff I deem "required" but for coffee chains, fast food restaurants, grocery stores and other services if they need an "app" for me to use it. I just won't use it. Or I will go out…
Re: The problem of creeping commercial surveillance (2022)
#49I mean, I know its not practical for everyone or every application - that being said I have made it my highest priority to go out of my way to not use services or products that require apps to be installed. Obviously I make exceptions for stuff I deem "required" but for coffee chains, fast food restaurants, grocery stores and other services if they need an "app" for me to use it. I just won't use it. Or I will go out…
>That being said, I am now running into what I call the "Non-App Tax". The most prominent example I can think of in my own experience is my towns local parking payment system. You actually don't need to use the app to find parking or pay. You can scan a QR code and pay via text. Then I looked at the prices on the app vs prices via text and the prices were a decent amount higher ($1-2 more) and less flexible than if I…
Re: The problem of creeping commercial surveillance (2022)
#50I did an experiment: I deleted all the cookies using privacy settings of my browser then I avoid to click anything about cookies' authorisation, i.e. if a page present that kind of requests I immediately close the page itself. At the and, I verified that cookies are presente on browser's storage despite my absence of authorisation, even third parties cookies. So, yes, I agree: commercial surveillance is creepy and I…
> I avoid to click anything about cookies' authorisation, i.e. if a page present that kind of requests I immediately close the page itself. At the and, I verified that cookies are presente on browser's storage I have recently had to implement some of these banners. Here’s what I learned: click reject . The way America’s version of the cookie banner law (not sure about EU) works is that cookies are default allowed . T…