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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some things to keep in mind about these UFO hearings: 1. The reports are all second- and third- hand. To my knowledge, no DoD employee has testified to anybody in Congress that they personally witnessed extraterrestrial technology or "biologics". 2. The exception here is a "Jonathan Grey", who hasn't testified before Congress, or, for that matter, been identified; he's one of David Grusch's sources, under a pseudonym…
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not the person that you asked but I think they’re full of it. Maybe they like to believe that the American government is powerful enough to control beings in possession of technology capable of interstellar travel. I don’t buy it. Or the cheese is just sliding off their cracker. Happens to many otherwise very bright folks.
I always think about how Ben Carson was one of the most skilled (if not the most skilled) neurosurgeons in the world, so knowledgeable about the human brain and so deft at operating on it that he was able to separate conjoined twins in a then-unprecedented procedure... and is also a creationist who believes that the Egyptian pyramids were biblical grain silos.
>> that he was able to separate conjoined twins in a then-unprecedented procedure...
Didn’t the twins like. Die?
This is always brought up. Ben Carson separating twins. But like. They died. Multiple sets of conjoined people he operated on died I think.
Why do people always bring this up without mentioning that the twins died
To the best of my knowledge Ben Carson is and always has been a giant self aggrandizing douche who definitely has and had equals in his field
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Linus Pauling is another example. The only person to ever receive two unshared Nobel prizes, considered one of the top 20 scientists of all time, and he was a huge proponent of megavitamin pseudoscience.
Oh man, I forgot about Pauling... another victim of Nobel disease: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_disease
Yet another disease not directly susceptible to deworming.
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Thanks for pointing that out! What are your thoughts on the latest UFO congressional hearing? Do you think these people just turned their careers and image to shambles because they just wanted some sensationalism or do you give people any benefit of the doubt?
Not the person that you asked but I think they’re full of it. Maybe they like to believe that the American government is powerful enough to control beings in possession of technology capable of interstellar travel. I don’t buy it. Or the cheese is just sliding off their cracker. Happens to many otherwise very bright folks.
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Which hardest problem would that be? There are a fuckload of astrophysicists.
Whether or not other formations of molecules, Carbon(organic-based), Silicon, or otherwise similar elements of modest combinational reactive potential (Germanium?), outside of our planetary gravity well, have managed to arrange themselves -- despite increasing entropy, yet due to gravity itself -- in a manner of complexity large enough (in magnitudes) that, as an emergent property of its own existence, has given rise…
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks for pointing that out! What are your thoughts on the latest UFO congressional hearing? Do you think these people just turned their careers and image to shambles because they just wanted some sensationalism or do you give people any benefit of the doubt?
Some things to keep in mind about these UFO hearings: 1. The reports are all second- and third- hand. To my knowledge, no DoD employee has testified to anybody in Congress that they personally witnessed extraterrestrial technology or "biologics". 2. The exception here is a "Jonathan Grey", who hasn't testified before Congress, or, for that matter, been identified; he's one of David Grusch's sources, under a pseudonym…
I watched the hearing and had a different takeaway:
There are UAP interfering with military training exercises and in American airspace, and there doesn't exist a reliable mechanism to report these or to address them given the stigma around UAP, and there should be one for safety reasons. At the very least, I felt the pilots made a compelling case here.
Now, if somehow there were indeed crashed alien crafts, I wouldn't be surprised that private contractors and defense agencies would want to reverse-engineer these technologies to obtain a military advantage over other nations.
But there's no proof of this, so it's just an interesting thought exercise at the moment, in the realm of fiction.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks for pointing that out! What are your thoughts on the latest UFO congressional hearing? Do you think these people just turned their careers and image to shambles because they just wanted some sensationalism or do you give people any benefit of the doubt?
Not the person that you asked but I think they’re full of it. Maybe they like to believe that the American government is powerful enough to control beings in possession of technology capable of interstellar travel. I don’t buy it. Or the cheese is just sliding off their cracker. Happens to many otherwise very bright folks.
Conspiracy theories that require large numbers of public servants working in concert effectively and stealthily, without any leaks or whistleblowers, are presumably created by people who have never worked in the public service.
> Or the cheese is just sliding off their cracker. Happens to many otherwise very bright folks.
IIRC, as your intelligence gets higher, the friction of your cracker lowers.
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#59The first author is Avi Loeb, who thinks this: > In 2018, he suggested that alien space craft may be in the Solar System, using ʻOumuamua as an example. In 2023, he claimed to have recovered material from an interstellar meteor that could be evidence of an alien starship, claims some experts criticized as hasty and sensational. > On August 24, 2023, The New York Times published an article about Loeb and his search fo…
The Chief Scientist of US Space Operations Command "confirmed that the velocity estimate reported to NASA is sufficiently accurate to indicate an interstellar trajectory" [1] using "additional data available to the Department of Defense" which I assume is classified. As far as I can tell this paper isn't making any extraordinary claims about extraterrestrial intelligence [2] (which Loeb is infamous for), it's just co…
Other still disagree that the evidence claiming the object was interstellar is a done deal.
>Skepticism about the endeavor flared at a recent Asteroids, Comets, Meteors Conference that occurred while the deep sea expedition was underway. There, Dr. Desch argued that had the fireball been moving as fast as reported, there would have been nothing left to find
Also:
>Dr. Brown also presented at the conference, describing a recent analysis using data from an assortment of instruments to crosscheck measurements for 17 of the objects listed in the same NASA fireball catalog used by Dr. Loeb and Mr. Siraj. His results, which have been accepted for publication in The Astrophysical Journal, indicate that the catalog data often gets directions and speeds wrong and that the size of the error for speed measurements increases for objects with greater speed.
July, 2023:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/24/science/avi-loeb-extrater...
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
I always think about how Ben Carson was one of the most skilled (if not the most skilled) neurosurgeons in the world, so knowledgeable about the human brain and so deft at operating on it that he was able to separate conjoined twins in a then-unprecedented procedure... and is also a creationist who believes that the Egyptian pyramids were biblical grain silos.
>> that he was able to separate conjoined twins in a then-unprecedented procedure... Didn’t the twins like. Die? This is always brought up. Ben Carson separating twins. But like. They died. Multiple sets of conjoined people he operated on died I think. Why do people always bring this up without mentioning that the twins died To the best of my knowledge Ben Carson is and always has been a giant self aggrandizing douch…
According to Wikipedia[1], one of them did survive (but was "profoundly disabled" and "never learned to speak or feed himself") but yeesh, it doesn't seem like a huge success, and their mother regrets electing for the surgery - which makes it seem like the doctors believed they would have survived and lived a reasonably normal life (under the circumstances) without the surgery.
If that's the case, then it seems like a total ethical violation to even offer the surgery. But maybe that isn't so and it's her trauma talking there, I don't really know.
Carson's Wikipedia article [2] mentions several other sets of twins, one operation resulting in a "normal neurological state," 2 resulting in the death of both twins, and another resulting in one dying and the other being "legally blind and [struggling] to walk."
I don't know what to make of all that, but you're right, that is more murky than the narrative I've heard previously.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_and_Benjamin_Binder