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Discovery of spherules of likely extrasolar composition in the Pacific Ocean [pdf]

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Re: Discovery of spherules of likely extrasolar composition in the Pacific Ocean [pdf]

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Post by sixstringtheory »

Mystery-Machine wrote: post #17
botanical wrote: post #16

The first author is Avi Loeb, who thinks this: > In 2018, he suggested that alien space craft may be in the Solar System, using ʻOumuamua as an example. In 2023, he claimed to have recovered material from an interstellar meteor that could be evidence of an alien starship, claims some experts criticized as hasty and sensational. > On August 24, 2023, The New York Times published an article about Loeb and his search fo…

Thanks for pointing that out! What are your thoughts on the latest UFO congressional hearing? Do you think these people just turned their careers and image to shambles because they just wanted some sensationalism or do you give people any benefit of the doubt?

Not the person that you asked but I think they’re full of it. Maybe they like to believe that the American government is powerful enough to control beings in possession of technology capable of interstellar travel. I don’t buy it.

Or the cheese is just sliding off their cracker. Happens to many otherwise very bright folks.

Re: Discovery of spherules of likely extrasolar composition in the Pacific Ocean [pdf]

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Post by tptacek »

Mystery-Machine wrote: post #17
botanical wrote: post #16

The first author is Avi Loeb, who thinks this: > In 2018, he suggested that alien space craft may be in the Solar System, using ʻOumuamua as an example. In 2023, he claimed to have recovered material from an interstellar meteor that could be evidence of an alien starship, claims some experts criticized as hasty and sensational. > On August 24, 2023, The New York Times published an article about Loeb and his search fo…

Thanks for pointing that out! What are your thoughts on the latest UFO congressional hearing? Do you think these people just turned their careers and image to shambles because they just wanted some sensationalism or do you give people any benefit of the doubt?

Some things to keep in mind about these UFO hearings:

1. The reports are all second- and third- hand. To my knowledge, no DoD employee has testified to anybody in Congress that they personally witnessed extraterrestrial technology or "biologics".

2. The exception here is a "Jonathan Grey", who hasn't testified before Congress, or, for that matter, been identified; he's one of David Grusch's sources, under a pseudonym.

3. Some of the people testifying believe a lot of other things besides this UFO stuff --- Grusch for instance has peculiar beliefs about interdimensional travel, and is also certain that the Vatican is deeply involved in this cover-up.

4. We know about Grusch's testimony because the Pentagon cleared it, where "it" refers to what would be the single most significant military secret ever held by the government of any country.

Re: Discovery of spherules of likely extrasolar composition in the Pacific Ocean [pdf]

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Post by sxp »

Avi Loeb is an interesting scientist. I read a longer article about him that gave some more background about his work [1]. While he is famous for going on podcasts and making wild claims about objects being signs of alien intelligence, the actual hard science that he's doing is interesting. E.g, this expedition he managed to get funding to recover these extrasolar particles. The clickbaity pop media says that this is "alien tech" but reading his blog [2] shows some hard science about how his team isolated the extrasolar candidates and launched an expedition. He's also trying to fund another project to watch the skies for more UFOs/extraterrestiral technology [3]. Even though the clickbaity aspect is that this is for hunting aliens, the likely worst case scenario is that he managed to raise a bunch of funds using the current UFO hype to gather more evidence about meteors entering Earth's atmosphere. I think it's unlikely that any of the unknown sightings are aliens, but I fully support Loeb because the science he is doing will have interesting results even without the discovery of aliens.

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/24/magazine/avi-loeb-alien-h...

[2] https://avi-loeb.medium.com/

[3] https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/galileo/home

Re: Discovery of spherules of likely extrasolar composition in the Pacific Ocean [pdf]

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Post by ftxbro »

Oh it's Avi Loeb, head of the astronomy department at Harvard. Here's a youtube about what his deal is, by an astronomer who studied astronomy through postdoc level and then left for industry and doing some youtubes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY985qzn7oI

Re: Discovery of spherules of likely extrasolar composition in the Pacific Ocean [pdf]

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Post by tptacek »

sxp wrote: post #24

Avi Loeb is an interesting scientist. I read a longer article about him that gave some more background about his work [1]. While he is famous for going on podcasts and making wild claims about objects being signs of alien intelligence, the actual hard science that he's doing is interesting. E.g, this expedition he managed to get funding to recover these extrasolar particles. The clickbaity pop media says that this is…

What is Loeb's reputation among astrophysicists?

He's written "over 800 scientific papers". Is that... a good thing in his field?

Re: Discovery of spherules of likely extrasolar composition in the Pacific Ocean [pdf]

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Post by spondylosaurus »

sixstringtheory wrote: post #21
Mystery-Machine wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for pointing that out! What are your thoughts on the latest UFO congressional hearing? Do you think these people just turned their careers and image to shambles because they just wanted some sensationalism or do you give people any benefit of the doubt?

Not the person that you asked but I think they’re full of it. Maybe they like to believe that the American government is powerful enough to control beings in possession of technology capable of interstellar travel. I don’t buy it. Or the cheese is just sliding off their cracker. Happens to many otherwise very bright folks.

I always think about how Ben Carson was one of the most skilled (if not the most skilled) neurosurgeons in the world, so knowledgeable about the human brain and so deft at operating on it that he was able to separate conjoined twins in a then-unprecedented procedure... and is also a creationist who believes that the Egyptian pyramids were biblical grain silos.

Re: Discovery of spherules of likely extrasolar composition in the Pacific Ocean [pdf]

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Post by UncleOxidant »

tptacek wrote: post #23
Mystery-Machine wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for pointing that out! What are your thoughts on the latest UFO congressional hearing? Do you think these people just turned their careers and image to shambles because they just wanted some sensationalism or do you give people any benefit of the doubt?

Some things to keep in mind about these UFO hearings: 1. The reports are all second- and third- hand. To my knowledge, no DoD employee has testified to anybody in Congress that they personally witnessed extraterrestrial technology or "biologics". 2. The exception here is a "Jonathan Grey", who hasn't testified before Congress, or, for that matter, been identified; he's one of David Grusch's sources, under a pseudonym…

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