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Some things to keep in mind about these UFO hearings: 1. The reports are all second- and third- hand. To my knowledge, no DoD employee has testified to anybody in Congress that they personally witnessed extraterrestrial technology or "biologics". 2. The exception here is a "Jonathan Grey", who hasn't testified before Congress, or, for that matter, been identified; he's one of David Grusch's sources, under a pseudonym…
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Some things to keep in mind about these UFO hearings: 1. The reports are all second- and third- hand. To my knowledge, no DoD employee has testified to anybody in Congress that they personally witnessed extraterrestrial technology or "biologics". 2. The exception here is a "Jonathan Grey", who hasn't testified before Congress, or, for that matter, been identified; he's one of David Grusch's sources, under a pseudonym…
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#33This is very cool research (solid theory and data paired with "hands-on" activity across teams) and a well-presented finding. I'm hoping there's a chance to find larger samples in the future as well. Even if not, just the weird composition of the spherules is itself a massive find.
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#34Avi Loeb is an interesting scientist. I read a longer article about him that gave some more background about his work [1]. While he is famous for going on podcasts and making wild claims about objects being signs of alien intelligence, the actual hard science that he's doing is interesting. E.g, this expedition he managed to get funding to recover these extrasolar particles. The clickbaity pop media says that this is…
What is Loeb's reputation among astrophysicists? He's written "over 800 scientific papers". Is that... a good thing in his field?
His wikipedia page captures both facets:
Loeb is the Frank B. Baird Jr. Professor of Science at Harvard University. He had been the longest serving chair of Harvard's Department of Astronomy (2011–2020), founding director of Harvard's Black Hole Initiative (since 2016) and director of the Institute for Theory and Computation (since 2007) within the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics.
Loeb is a fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, the American Physical Society, and the International Academy of Astronautics. In July 2018, he was appointed as chair of the Board on Physics and Astronomy (BPA) of the National Academies,
and: In June 2023, Loeb announced the project had found interstellar material on the ocean floor..
These claims were criticized by other scientists as hasty, sensational, and part of a pattern of improper behavior.
Peter Brown, a meteor physicist at the University of Western Ontario, argued the material can be explained as non-interstellar, [...] Brown further said he was disturbed by Loeb's lack of engagement with relevant experts.
Astrophysicist Steve Desch, at Arizona State University, commented "[his claims are] polluting good science—conflating the good science we do with this ridiculous sensationalism and sucking all the oxygen out of the room", and said several of his colleagues are consequently refusing to engage with Loeb in the peer review process.
As noted elsewhere about a competant brain surgeon believing pyramids to be hollow, it's entirely possible to reason well about physical forces and black holes and to also be utterly incorrect about material science of metallurgy.quotes from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avi_Loeb
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#35Avi Loeb is an interesting scientist. I read a longer article about him that gave some more background about his work [1]. While he is famous for going on podcasts and making wild claims about objects being signs of alien intelligence, the actual hard science that he's doing is interesting. E.g, this expedition he managed to get funding to recover these extrasolar particles. The clickbaity pop media says that this is…
What is Loeb's reputation among astrophysicists? He's written "over 800 scientific papers". Is that... a good thing in his field?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY985qzn7oI [1 hour]
The video predates the spherecule stuff and focuses on his assertion 'Oumuamua was "most likely" debris from an extraterrestrial spacecraft.
Tl;Dw: he doesn't seem to have a good reputation within the SETI community, and Dr. Collie's personal opinion is that many of these papers are insubstantial; he often publishes a couple paragraphs proposing a thought experiment or cool idea, more blog posts than research.
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#36Avi Loeb is an interesting scientist. I read a longer article about him that gave some more background about his work [1]. While he is famous for going on podcasts and making wild claims about objects being signs of alien intelligence, the actual hard science that he's doing is interesting. E.g, this expedition he managed to get funding to recover these extrasolar particles. The clickbaity pop media says that this is…
What is Loeb's reputation among astrophysicists? He's written "over 800 scientific papers". Is that... a good thing in his field?
Not an astrophysicist but several friends are. The consensus seems to be that he was a good scientist at one point but has turned into a sensationalist attention monger.
> He's written "over 800 scientific papers". Is that... a good thing in his field?
He's been an author on over 800 scientific papers: that includes his work, work he's been a significant collaborator on, and student work he's supervised. 800 is a lot for someone his age but not unheard of. People care much more about paper quality (or less charitably, citation count) than quantity.
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Which hardest problem would that be? There are a fuckload of astrophysicists.
Does 'life' exist, outside our planet, or solar system?
"Are" - awareness of object permanence "we" - the collective consciousness of our species "alone" - the ability to distinguish ourselves from our environment "?" - the ability to ponder abstract thoughts
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Not the person that you asked but I think they’re full of it. Maybe they like to believe that the American government is powerful enough to control beings in possession of technology capable of interstellar travel. I don’t buy it. Or the cheese is just sliding off their cracker. Happens to many otherwise very bright folks.
I always think about how Ben Carson was one of the most skilled (if not the most skilled) neurosurgeons in the world, so knowledgeable about the human brain and so deft at operating on it that he was able to separate conjoined twins in a then-unprecedented procedure... and is also a creationist who believes that the Egyptian pyramids were biblical grain silos.
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That is covered in the paper. Was there a flaw in their control process?
"if I can't explain it any other way then it must be aliens" feels very like "If I can't explain genetics any other way then it must be god and therefore evolution does not exist: its god" how about: "If I can't explain it because I am not competent then you are a fool for believing my reasoning why this is x and not y or z or a or b" He found a thing. It's unusual in composition and physical form. Therefore, we can…
It’s not “evidence of aliens,” it’s evidence of extrasolar origin of this particular meteor.
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Thanks for pointing that out! What are your thoughts on the latest UFO congressional hearing? Do you think these people just turned their careers and image to shambles because they just wanted some sensationalism or do you give people any benefit of the doubt?
Some things to keep in mind about these UFO hearings: 1. The reports are all second- and third- hand. To my knowledge, no DoD employee has testified to anybody in Congress that they personally witnessed extraterrestrial technology or "biologics". 2. The exception here is a "Jonathan Grey", who hasn't testified before Congress, or, for that matter, been identified; he's one of David Grusch's sources, under a pseudonym…
Source for this? I haven't heard that one before.