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Re: Lie still in bed

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Post by oarfish »

joveian wrote: post #217
Zircom wrote: post #194

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Pillow under my knees and a thin one to hold on my chest and fold my arms on top of helped me get used to sleeping on my back.

But look out for signs of sleep apnea; I only get it sleeping on my back, which I rarely do. Possibly in some cases sleep apnea might be part of why it doesn't feel comfortable to sleep on your back. The other issue that is worse for me when I end up on my back is my mouth drying out (not good for teeth).

This is quite common for people with obstructive sleep apnea (same here). More comfy for me, but i'm supposed to sleep sideways.

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Post by hnsucks111 »

Barrin92 wrote: post #127
Swordfish12345 wrote: post #118

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> people with ADHD...because their brains don't work like this. You might be surprised to find out that there is actually no proof of this. The biggest thing impacting people with ADHD symptoms is the diagnosis. It implies they have a brain disorder, and cuts short any exploration into environmental causes of their symptoms. And an environmental cause may in fact be, simply not trying some simple advice from this art…

I would be very surprised because that's complete nonsense. ADHD is a neurodevelopmental disorder with changes in both neurochemistry and structural development of the brain [1]. This is why drugs like Adderall are highly effective in treating the symptoms of ADHD. You cannot cure disorders of the brain by reading blogs on the internet, and it is this kind of ignorance that has given people with neurological issues a…

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Post by Rudism »

flurdy wrote: post #137

I wrote [1] about my tip for falling sleep: Daydream. I now coach my own kids to do the same and it works. Essentially do not think about things that has happened; It just gets you annoyed with regrets that can not be changed. Do not think about the future; You will get excited, anxious, annoyed and too worked up to sleep. Also covers sports, politics, relationship, technology etc. Think about things that do not affe…

I like to write short fiction sometimes as a hobby (usually just for myself, or occasionally posted anonymously on the internet), with a big reason being that I have something to think about when I'm trying to fall asleep or distract myself from anxiety. The only annoying thing is that sometimes I come up with a great idea as I'm falling asleep, and get excited to put it down in writing, only to find the next morning that I can't remember what it was.

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Post by maerF0x0 »

On the topic of sleep deprivation, also consider all the gradient of rest + recovery that you can do to support your body even if it's not getting the best sleep.

Mindfulness Meditation, NSDR[1], Box Breathing[2], Saunas / Cold showers, adequate protein intake, basic movement like walking for bloodflow/lymphatic drainage etc.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKGrmY8OSHM [2]: https://www.webmd.com/balance/what-is-box-breathing#1-3

Re: Lie still in bed

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Post by maerF0x0 »

nerdchum wrote: post #25

This may work for non-neurotic people but laying still in bed is when the demons in my mind come out to play and remind me of all of my problems.

I likely am far less neurotic than you, but for me I've found reading fiction really helps to clear out the thoughts that are keeping me awake.

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Post by Brusco_RF »

Savely wrote: post #206
thomasahle wrote: post #147

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For years I fell asleep thinking about some math problem I was working on. Worked wonders, never had any issues falling asleep. Then I left academia, and were no longer thinking about math all day. An unforeseen consequence: I started having issues falling asleep. Now I need to regularly look up puzzles or maybe challenging programming problems, just to have something relaxing to fill my mind while falling asleep.

It bears a risk of developing a connection and feeling sleepy every time you need to do some math. :D

I have certain books that I just gave up on for this reason. Once it becomes my "bedtime book" its impossible for me to read a few pages and not nod off!

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Post by maerF0x0 »

smeej wrote: post #86

Most of these comments are about sleep, but the article really isn't. It's about where to apply willpower to change a habit, slowly but surely. I found the part about recognizing small changes rather than fixating on the end goal especially helpful. You don't need to go to sleep an hour earlier to be building a habit. Two minutes more effort counts.

many life advices would additionally claim that one should mostly abandon "end goal" thinking and instead focus on how to live a rhythm/pattern of actions that you can celebrate today, and that cumulative could result in the goal you care about (given a reasonable amount of successful dice rolls) .

This is a sort of values based form of living vs target fixation. I go to the gym because I value my health today and therefore eat healthy + go to gym. I don't do it because I want the end state of "abs".

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Post by JohnBooty »

anonyfox wrote: post #172
JohnBooty wrote: post #169

Just like you can practice going to sleep at a reasonable hour, so can you practice keeping your bed made, liking a particular food, or doing collage. This is so true and so powerful. People in general really underestimate how "hackable" their brains and habits are. It's probably the single biggest fixable difference I see between people who are successful and happy and those who aren't. I think the general HN demogr…

ADHD chiming in. That approach just doesn’t work when you have to actively spend nontrivial brain energy to even brush your teeth, every day. There is no such thing as a hackable routine, atomic/keystone habits, or „too lazy to stay on track“.

Just a thought. I am diagnosed with ADHD as well and struggle at times.

    actively spend nontrivial brain energy to even brush your teeth
I doubt you'll see this but this statement has really stuck in my mind. Do you think that neurotypicals aren't spending non-trivial brain energy to build and maintain habits?

I agree that this kind of thing is harder for those of us with ADHD. It is not just a discipline issue.

But, I don't know. I think people who aren't good at _____ often see people who are good at _____ and think it's just some kind of magical innate thing they didn't put any work into.

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Post by compscigirl »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #175
anonyfox wrote: post #172

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ADHD chiming in. That approach just doesn’t work when you have to actively spend nontrivial brain energy to even brush your teeth, every day. There is no such thing as a hackable routine, atomic/keystone habits, or „too lazy to stay on track“.

I have ADHD and I choose not to make excuses.

While I agree that it’s quite common these days for people to use ADHD as an excuse for why they can’t do X, in this case I don’t think your dismissal of others’ symptoms is fair. It’s generally true that people with ADHD are unable to form and maintain routines without significant external incentives and that maintaining those incentives is a precarious and exhausting endeavour. As many others in this thread have noted, they lack habit forming momentum and end up quickly depleting their “willpower” since it’s constantly necessary for even the smallest of everyday tasks. Their routines are also easily disrupted by a change in external input and it can be quite hard to recover.

That said, different people experience more or less severe symptoms and if you are able to tolerate ADHD medication it can significantly reduce the effort required.

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Post by mikrotikker »

samstave wrote: post #81
Tempest1981 wrote: post #53

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Yep, pick one where the host has a monotone voice, and play it at 0.75x speed

Lex Fridman (love him) has the most monotone voice and at 1.25 he still sounds like .75... Ill put on long form pods so I dont have to mess with anything until I fall asleep. Here is one thing that happens very often to me. I have always been a rather lucid dreamer, vivid dreamer, and I have had dream story lines last literally decades in my dreams. I have had dreams where I have a story take place - then that story…

Interesting have you ever been able to control your actions in your dreams?
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