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Re: WordPress introduces 100 year domain registrations

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Post by withinboredom »

hoofhearted wrote: post #127
withinboredom wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Fastest loading possible, Secure, Simple and affordable hosting, and so on. You know that WordPress is actually fast, right? A vanilla install on a crappy $2 a month server will return a response in a few ms. The problem with WordPress are the plugins and the lack of vetting/rules/oversight. And when they do apply their rules, they apply them in ridiculous ways -- for example, I submitted a plugin that was a wrappe…

The MVP that we launched a few months ago already was more optimized and faster than the website hosted at Wordpress.com The MVP also is cheaper to host compared to the hosting solution you suggested. https://www.elegantframework.com/blog/2023-04-05-elegant-fra...

Yes, but static sites aren't even a competition with WordPress. WordPress doesn't do anything with static site hosting. I'm not precisely defending WordPress here though, I'm just pointing out that I feel like you're comparing Apples to Oranges.

Reach out to me via email, I used to work at Automattic/WordPress.com and I'd love to hear more about what you're working on.

Re: WordPress introduces 100 year domain registrations

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Post by beezlewax »

anonzzzies wrote: post #72
Waterluvian wrote: post #46

It’s just a money grab for anyone who will fall for it. 100 years is long enough that the consequences of failure are nil. Nobody who is pushing this program will be alive to deal with any fallout. It reminds me of the subtle attitude of people making poor engineering decisions because they’ll be long gone by the time payment comes due.

Almost all ‘lifetime subs’ are scams; a company has to be massive to support it and if it doesn’t work out for smaller companies, the consequences don’t matter anyway.

Anything I've paid lifetime subs for has later changed their terms and dropped out of the deal

Re: WordPress introduces 100 year domain registrations

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Post by josephcsible »

harshreality wrote: post #48

Things are not nearly as predictable 100 years out as they are 1 or 10. A 100-year plan is for WordPress.com's benefit, not yours. They get a predictable accounting revenue stream for 100 years if they continue to exist; if not, no problem for them, they still got the money, while you get nothing (or whatever a bankruptcy court says). You get... hosting for 100 years. Maybe. What are the odds, and are you factoring t…

> They get a predictable accounting revenue stream for 100 years

Isn't this a one-time payment up front?

Re: WordPress introduces 100 year domain registrations

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Post by charles_f »

devoutsalsa wrote: post #107
charles_f wrote: post #90

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I took a lifetime VPN sub. It always puzzled me why they'd do that, what with the operational cost. It lasted a bit over 10y, which is still a good deal, but not lifetime.

Out of curiosity… does their ULA specify to whom/what “lifetime” refers?

I'm not sure, but they ended up closing shop.

Re: WordPress introduces 100 year domain registrations

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Post by brody_hamer »

andrewmcwatters wrote: post #43

Or, you know, hold on to your $38K and let the interest pay your domain lease in perpetuity.

I expect $38k is enough to set up a proper trust to run indefinitely.

I would assume that any company offering this sort of approach would have a trust set up to ensure it can keep its promise. (Ex: invest in S&P and draw off 3% each year to cover maintenance and upkeep)

That’s how I would do it, at least.

The fact that Wordpress doesn’t detail anything like this has me doubting though.

Re: WordPress introduces 100 year domain registrations

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Post by goykasi »

ipaddr wrote: post #31
goykasi wrote: post #19

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That's insanity. I would rather bet on Cloudflare to be around longer. They don't add any additional up-charge from the baseline ICANN price. Before, I was buying 10 years of registration for a bit of a discount, but, after 20 years, I've switched over to single year with CF. What value does Wordpress bring for $380/yr? That's crazy.

You don't think Cloudflare will have a vc catchup moment where they jack up prices when they have a certain reach? Or they won't get purchased by a bigger entity or the US military? Cloudflare will not be the same in 10 years. I doubt it will exist as the cloudflare we know today.

> I doubt it will exist as the cloudflare we know today

Well, I can't predict the future, but I think CF is one of the good ones. I bet on them more than most. They have been pretty consistent with being benevolent for the internet. But you seem to feel differently. Have they rubbed you the wrong way somehow? Why would they allow the US military to buy them out?

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Post by somenameforme »

gwbrooks wrote: post #99
jeremyjh wrote: post #75

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Yet 2023 is barely different from 2013.

According to the World Bank, global poverty has decreased by nearly 20% during that time; the rate of decrease for those in extreme poverty has been even greater. That's something like a billion and a half people who absolutely think the world is different between 2013 and 2023.

It'd only be 1.5 billion people if 100% of the world was in poverty. They're referring to relative rates. E.g. if 5% of the world was in poverty and now it's 4% then you have a 20% decline. But the bigger point is to be wary of metrics. The overwhelming majority of global poverty comes from extremely rural locations where money has relatively little use, yet people get by quite comfortably.

Putting these people in an urban job where they then earn $3 a day is then considered progress, regardless of impact on quality of life. For instance the biggest contemporary driver in decline of poverty has been the rise of China. It saw people go from raising large families in rural areas to living in densely packed cities, making iPhones for $3 a day in factories surrounded by suicide nets.

I'm obviously not saying economic development is bad, but that measuring it by metrics is stupid, especially the way the World Bank does which is simply looking at a fixed level of $ consumption/production. What should matter is quality of life. That's obviously what you're referencing, but the metrics are not.

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Post by joshspankit »

charles_f wrote: post #90
anonzzzies wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost all ‘lifetime subs’ are scams; a company has to be massive to support it and if it doesn’t work out for smaller companies, the consequences don’t matter anyway.

I took a lifetime VPN sub. It always puzzled me why they'd do that, what with the operational cost. It lasted a bit over 10y, which is still a good deal, but not lifetime.

The underlying answer is that the cost to provide service to an average VPN user is essentially zero

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Post by joshspankit »

millzlane wrote: post #123
93po wrote: post #122

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It is virtually guaranteed no one will use domain names or web browsers or blogs or websites in 100 years.

What would they use?

There are technologies today that have a good chance of making traditional domain names obsolete. IPFS Unstoppable Domains for example.
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