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Re: WordPress introduces 100 year domain registrations

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Post by moralestapia »

pavlov wrote: post #89
moralestapia wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The NYT can change any of the tech they use and still be the NYT in 100 years. Wordpress is the technology, if it changes, it becomes something else. That's the difference, explained.

Wordpress.com can change their technology without becoming something else. They own the Wordpress trademark just like NYT owns theirs. Somebody who buys a 100-year registration from Wordpress will have the service delivered on whatever Wordpress has become by 2123.

People don't go to wordpress.com because of the name or the content on the site.

People use WP because it's a technology they understand and can put to a particular use. If that changes, said people may not use it anymore.

If the NYT decides to change their content delivery platform to, literally, whatever, people would still go read the NYT. Their audience doesn't care.

If WP becomes a different product (a static site generator for Rust, deployed with Kubernetes?), their customer base will drop to ~0 overnight.

Re: WordPress introduces 100 year domain registrations

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Post by CM30 »

Yeah, I doubt this is going to be hold for 100 years. WordPress itself? Maybe, it's certainly not the kind of software that goes out of fashion in a year or two like many frameworks of the day. But a paid service that's supposed to last 100 years (or heck, longer than 10 years in general) is very unlikely to stick around anywhere near as long as that. Something like 99% of companies will flat out not exist by the next century.

Re: WordPress introduces 100 year domain registrations

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Post by rhn_mk1 »

Waterluvian wrote: post #46

It’s just a money grab for anyone who will fall for it. 100 years is long enough that the consequences of failure are nil. Nobody who is pushing this program will be alive to deal with any fallout. It reminds me of the subtle attitude of people making poor engineering decisions because they’ll be long gone by the time payment comes due.

Does failing after 10 years count as a failure? Cause living for the next 10 years is not really that difficult, and the relevant people will still likely be around.

Sure, the offer might as well be for 90 years, or even 50 years without much practical difference, but if it was a bit more honest and said "50 years", would you still call it a money grab?

The fact remains that this will be honored for as long as there are people interested in honoring it. This surely has some value, right?

Re: WordPress introduces 100 year domain registrations

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Post by jeremyjh »

willis936 wrote: post #74
echelon wrote: post #33

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I'll be horrified if we're still using screwdrivers in 100 years. I'm ready for brain uploads and immortality and unlocking the rest of the galaxy for exploration. I'm tired of everyone turning to dust.

Brain uploads don't cheat death. Let's say you made a digital clone of your brain. Your last thought would be "oh shit I'm dying". The description of you is not the thing you inherently try to protect, but the physical brain itself. Your brain's contents change quite often compared to the medium.

This just boils down to the dualism/physicalism argument. Physicalists would say that the mind is software and state, and they can be copied or moved just like a VM can be moved (e.g. Vmotion) from one host to another without any internally perceived interruption. The brain is just the host.

Re: WordPress introduces 100 year domain registrations

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Post by pavlov »

moralestapia wrote: post #91
pavlov wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wordpress.com can change their technology without becoming something else. They own the Wordpress trademark just like NYT owns theirs. Somebody who buys a 100-year registration from Wordpress will have the service delivered on whatever Wordpress has become by 2123.

People don't go to wordpress.com because of the name or the content on the site. People use WP because it's a technology they understand and can put to a particular use. If that changes, said people may not use it anymore. If the NYT decides to change their content delivery platform to, literally, whatever, people would still go read the NYT. Their audience doesn't care. If WP becomes a different product (a static si…

Well, duh. If a company suddenly stopped selling the product that their users rely on, they would lose sales. This is hardly a revelation.

There are lots of examples of software platforms transitioning to a new foundation while retaining a compatibility shim for those bits of the old applications that customers still need. Text-mode COBOL applications are deployed on Windows 11, which itself has almost nothing in common with Windows 1.0.

Wordpress.com would need to maintain compatibility with some PHP+MySQL plugins. This doesn’t seem insurmountable, especially as AI code translation is now a thing.

Re: WordPress introduces 100 year domain registrations

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Post by gwbrooks »

jeremyjh wrote: post #75
somenameforme wrote: post #44

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Take yourself back to 1960. Mankind has never once been to space, though there have been endless efforts to achieve such. The next year Yuri Gagarin becomes the first man in space, Alan Shepherd follows shortly behind him. The following year the President gives a riveting speech about putting a man on the Moon. 7 years later, we land the first man on the Moon. And then do it repeatedly - to the point that dozens of m…

Yet 2023 is barely different from 2013.

According to the World Bank, global poverty has decreased by nearly 20% during that time; the rate of decrease for those in extreme poverty has been even greater.

That's something like a billion and a half people who absolutely think the world is different between 2013 and 2023.

Re: WordPress introduces 100 year domain registrations

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Post by willis936 »

jeremyjh wrote: post #95
willis936 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brain uploads don't cheat death. Let's say you made a digital clone of your brain. Your last thought would be "oh shit I'm dying". The description of you is not the thing you inherently try to protect, but the physical brain itself. Your brain's contents change quite often compared to the medium.

This just boils down to the dualism/physicalism argument. Physicalists would say that the mind is software and state, and they can be copied or moved just like a VM can be moved (e.g. Vmotion) from one host to another without any internally perceived interruption. The brain is just the host.

The real answer is likely that consciousness is an emergent phenomenon. In reality there is no mystical magic that makes us special. There is no one right answer for "the best way to cheat death" because it's all about satisfying a moving target of how comfortable you are with the fact that there is nothing intrinsically special about consciousness. Saving the brain is at least a concrete thing that satisfies most interpretations of identity.
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