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how much secret information is SpaceX really getting from the federal government? probably near nothing
Well, they certainly know plenty more details about the military payloads they occasionally carry than the general public.
Uncle Sam accuses SpaceX of not considering asylees and refugees for employment
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The DoJ should not be representing non-citizens against citizens. This is not in dispute.
Our constitution applies to all humans on our soil except where it specifies otherwise.
English common law informs literally every word of the constitution. "The People" are the demos. dêmos (δῆμος): “ordinary citizens, common people from a district, in a city-state.” It never included tourists. Also, the Privileges or Immunities Clause explicitly concedes that citizens have both privileges and immunities. Why would that be?
>It would be inappropriate, however, to require every statutory exclusion of aliens to clear the high hurdle of "strict scrutiny," because to do so would "obliterate all the distinctions between citizens and aliens, and thus depreciate the historic values of citizenship." Mauclet, supra at 432 U. S. 14 (BURGER, C.J., dissenting). The act of becoming a citizen is more than a ritual, with no content beyond the fanfare of ceremony. A new citizen has become a member of a Nation, part of a people distinct from others. Cf. 31 U. S. Georgia, 6 Pet. 515, 559 (1832). The individual, at that point, belongs to the polity, and is entitled to participate in the processes of democratic decisionmaking. Accordingly, we have recognized "a State's historical power to exclude aliens from participation in its democratic political institutions, as part of the sovereign's obligation "to preserve the basic conception of a political community.'" 413 U.S. at 413 U. S. 647.
Foley v. Connelie, 435 U.S. 291 (1978)
This means that there need not be a compelling government interest to justify discriminating between citizens and non-citizens. Nor need the discrimination be done via the least restrictive means available. At least not in the general case.
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Hat tip. Good share. Serious question: Are there and well known examples of these exceptions? I cannot believe that anyone with exclusively Five Eyes citizenships would not be accepted.
I know a guy that contracts with NASA via CSIRO here in Australia. I imagine there's probably similar things going on with European research orgs
Also, Australia hosts a very important part of the NASA Deep Space Network in Canberra. I would assume there are lots of NASA and CSIRO employees there, and cooperation (trust) must be exceptionally high.
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Elan knows that any asylees or refugees he hires will, over time, be 100X the legal and security grief that SpaceX has with green cards and citizens Hiring managers who wish to discriminate against physically disabled applicants (and women!) often use the same flawed reasoning. I am glad those laws exist to protect those groups!
True. OTOH, those "$Victim_Group can't do the job" assertions are generally counter-factual. Vs. I feel far more sympathy toward the employer when it is the victim of conflicting requirements from different parts of the government - which generally have a "Who cares? - $Private_Company will be suffering, not us" attitude toward their 'Made in the GVT' f*-ups.
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>> The last option is more rare because smart people are less susceptible to propaganda This is actually bullshit, you can easily manipulate smart person, by appealing to their perceived smartness :) Anyway, just because someone is smart does not mean that they are also highly moral. It's often like: give a person opportunity for professional growth ("you'll be working on our moon landing program") and they will sell…
> This is actually bullshit This is actually not because smart people are not the target group. On the other hand, I've seen smart people fall victim to the propaganda machine more than once in order to adjust and conform. They were smart, but not strong enough.
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Yes, it's not like we can hold the government to the same standard that the government tries hold the private companies to. Clearly, government couldn't possibly be expected to follow the regulations it imposes on everyone else.
The regulations for the government are more stringent than the regulations for private employers.
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> This is actually bullshit This is actually not because smart people are not the target group. On the other hand, I've seen smart people fall victim to the propaganda machine more than once in order to adjust and conform. They were smart, but not strong enough.
A certain degree of sociopathy seems to be required to think independently because you must ignore the fact that everyone agrees (or seems to agree) with party policy if you live in certain regimes. It's not a very well adjusted human thing to do...
That’s actually an interesting thought, thank you.