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Re: Tell HN: Edge has added rounded corners to all web pages

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Post by masswerk »

tlhunter wrote: post #23

Doesn't macOS round the corners of application windows, including browsers?

This generally applies to outer window borders, but not to the content area.

Interestingly, Edge doesn't apply rounded corners to its own content presentation, either, as can be seen in the screenshots provided in a page (Neowin) linked by another comment, here.

To me, it appears much so as if MS is making a serious attempt to differentiate between own and foreign content, which includes a rather surprising comeback of visually prominent frame/window borders, which are marked by round corners in this particular design language. (If this is a good thing or not is left to the beholder, but it's at least interesting.)

Re: Tell HN: Edge has added rounded corners to all web pages

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Post by saurik »

breadwinner wrote: post #10
lolinder wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm referring to OP's list of things they change: > I want the browser to act as my agent, following my preferences in all things. I set a minimum font size, I control which fonts pages may use, I control when they may run scripts, when they may have videos or sound, what form controls (buttons, text inputs, etc) look like, when they may load content from third–party domains, etc, etc. Some of these are privacy consi…

You are conflating design/aesthetic choices with accessibility. The browser designer is enforcing their aesthetic choices (which happens to be ugly and inconsistent) on their users. That's OK if it only impacts the browser chrome. If it impacts the content area, then the browser designer should defer to the application designer. > you should expect browsers to modify your designs to meet user needs. As a user, I don'…

> As a user, I don't want browser messing with the application design. There is no way to turn off these "enhancements".

Then use a browser which doesn't do that? If other people for some reason think it looks cool--and, despite designers claiming the opposite any chance they get, most normal people actually seem to enjoy unique spins that lead to inconsistent results--then let them? If I think it looks cooler to kind of hack every website into rendering with tints of red and you think it looks ugly... to bad?

Re: Tell HN: Edge has added rounded corners to all web pages

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Post by gary_0 »

db48x wrote: post #2

That’s not the rule I want browsers to follow. I want the browser to act as my agent, following my preferences in all things. I set a minimum font size, I control which fonts pages may use, I control when they may run scripts, when they may have videos or sound, what form controls (buttons, text inputs, etc) look like, when they may load content from third–party domains, etc, etc. Web application developers should no…

> If the user doesn’t like it they’ll tell the browser vender.

Let's be realistic: Microsoft, Google, and Mozilla aren't listening. They'll cram all sorts of ugly annoying stuff in your face and laugh at your pitiful forum threads begging for a setting to turn it all off.

Re: Tell HN: Edge has added rounded corners to all web pages

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Post by svilen_dobrev »

so is Opera (on linux).. some 3-4px artificial frame-of-theirs that does not come or be controllable by window-manager.

Why? To look rounded on rounded phones?

All these "pink-fluffy-unicorn" looks-feels of all recent techie stuff start to make me sick..

Re: Tell HN: Edge has added rounded corners to all web pages

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Post by LorenDB »

svilen_dobrev wrote: post #35

so is Opera (on linux).. some 3-4px artificial frame-of-theirs that does not come or be controllable by window-manager. Why? To look rounded on rounded phones? All these "pink-fluffy-unicorn" looks-feels of all recent techie stuff start to make me sick..

I'm happy with the rounded corners in Opera (although I rarely see them since I leave the window maximized most of the time); in face, I would love to see KDE Plasma adopt the same strategy of rounding all four corners of windows. It looks nice, and Windows 11 has reinforced that it can work fine without getting in the user's way (although Windows 11 rounded them too much, and now it's hard to resize windows easily).

Re: Tell HN: Edge has added rounded corners to all web pages

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Post by joker_minmax »

db48x wrote: post #2

That’s not the rule I want browsers to follow. I want the browser to act as my agent, following my preferences in all things. I set a minimum font size, I control which fonts pages may use, I control when they may run scripts, when they may have videos or sound, what form controls (buttons, text inputs, etc) look like, when they may load content from third–party domains, etc, etc. Web application developers should no…

By this logic we may as well go back into plaintext Netscape sites and let the browser determine everything about how we see the content. What is the limit to what the browser is allowed to do, and where do your preferences end and the browser's preferences that you can't change begin?

Re: Tell HN: Edge has added rounded corners to all web pages

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Post by joker_minmax »

YouTube has now started rounding corners of the video player at full-screen for some users. My friends have shared screenshots of this but I am yet to encounter it outside of mobile where my phone screen is already rounded.

I seriously thought the round corners trend was dead already. Why are they trying to force it back?

Re: Tell HN: Edge has added rounded corners to all web pages

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Post by bjoli »

lolinder wrote: post #4

A screenshot and explanation of how to turn this off can be found here [0]. > Edge is breaking this cardinal rule: Browser chrome belongs to the browser, but the content area belongs to the application alone. It's funny, for me this is not at all what the web is about. I see CSS styles as at best a suggestion for how the website would like to be rendered, but the browser is fundamentally a user agent that can render…

I dont allow other people to set my fonts. Nor do I allow them to go under a certain font size, and if the colour choices suck too badly I use reader mode.

I have set up so that I can disable any highjacking of scrolling or the back button.

Very rarely do I find that the UI elevates the content to any extent. Most of the time I am just annoyed, and at least once a day I think to myself that the website I am visiting would be better if it served text files over FTP.

Re: Tell HN: Edge has added rounded corners to all web pages

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Post by pathartl »

lolinder wrote: post #4

A screenshot and explanation of how to turn this off can be found here [0]. > Edge is breaking this cardinal rule: Browser chrome belongs to the browser, but the content area belongs to the application alone. It's funny, for me this is not at all what the web is about. I see CSS styles as at best a suggestion for how the website would like to be rendered, but the browser is fundamentally a user agent that can render…

> It's funny, for me this is not at all what the web is about. I see CSS styles as at best a suggestion for how the website would like to be rendered, but the browser is fundamentally a user agent that can render stuff however the user likes.

I know it's been a while, but it's like people don't remember how much iOS Safari just decided "this is how the web works now" when "retina" became a thing.

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