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Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web

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Post by geoelectric »

I feel like a lot of people in the thread don’t realize ADHD Coaching is an established thing that’s more like a specialization of life or organizational coaching than like therapy. It’s a certified practice, but not like being a doctor.

Pretty sure I was paying around $100/hr when I did it years ago, so those prices aren’t insane. The dude coaching was someone with obvious ADHD who (like a lot of us) probably had an easier time communicating what should be done than doing it himself. He definitely was no therapist.

But it added accountability and validation (or challenge, if needed), and he was trained in various organizational techniques. And since he was also ADHD he could speak from experience. My understanding from him was it was pretty common for the coaches to be ADHD people who’d gotten training and certification as a side gig.

I know nothing at all of Shimmer, but it sounds like a remote version of that than anything meant to be therapeutic per se. This is more like the training you should get after the meds start to work but you still don’t have good habits.

Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web

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Post by wolfgang42 »

mollybee wrote: post #210
jameslk wrote: post #199

I'm curious to hear more about the privacy and security practices of a service where you divulge your deepest darkest secret: that you're living with a disorder. Something that unscrupulous potential employers or others with nefarious intentions (e.g. bullies on the internet) can abuse. The privacy policy on the website doesn't exactly fill me with "this is HIPAA levels of privacy" feelings. It seems rather generic w…

If you're curious, might I suggest directing these questions toward the email address referenced multiple times in the link you posted? In case you've forgotten, it's privacy@shimmer.care. I'm sure they'll be able to answer your questions better than the comments section. Keep in mind that not everyone considers their ADHD their "deepest darkest secret." Some of us are open and unashamed of being neurodivergent. Obvi…

It still seems like useful feedback that this is something some people might find concerning.

Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web

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Post by christalwang »

jameslk wrote: post #199

I'm curious to hear more about the privacy and security practices of a service where you divulge your deepest darkest secret: that you're living with a disorder. Something that unscrupulous potential employers or others with nefarious intentions (e.g. bullies on the internet) can abuse. The privacy policy on the website doesn't exactly fill me with "this is HIPAA levels of privacy" feelings. It seems rather generic w…

Thanks and agree on protecting our members and their private conversations. Right now, we use Google Meet videos for the video sessions with a coach and so they are encrypted end-to-end and not recorded. We also don’t store any information from the google meet session in our platform. We can definitely include this in our privacy policy and will look into how to make this more transparent with regards to our data policies. We will be building out video functionality in the near future and our privacy policies including opt-out etc will be included.

Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web

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Post by dang »

mollybee wrote: post #210
jameslk wrote: post #199

I'm curious to hear more about the privacy and security practices of a service where you divulge your deepest darkest secret: that you're living with a disorder. Something that unscrupulous potential employers or others with nefarious intentions (e.g. bullies on the internet) can abuse. The privacy policy on the website doesn't exactly fill me with "this is HIPAA levels of privacy" feelings. It seems rather generic w…

If you're curious, might I suggest directing these questions toward the email address referenced multiple times in the link you posted? In case you've forgotten, it's privacy@shimmer.care. I'm sure they'll be able to answer your questions better than the comments section. Keep in mind that not everyone considers their ADHD their "deepest darkest secret." Some of us are open and unashamed of being neurodivergent. Obvi…

We're getting complaints about your comments because some readers are interpreting them as suspiciously pro-OP. I assume you're just expressing your personal point of view but it would be good to pull back a bit because it's coming across the wrong way.

Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web

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Post by astrange »

ModernMech wrote: post #180
com2kid wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is this a better price than a licensed therapist? Yes Good luck finding a licensed therapist who has bookings or availability. In Seattle I have had almost 0 luck over multiple years, and I have talked to many other people who have had the exact same amount of luck. The very few therapists around here who do specialize in ADHD either specialize in children, or they are so booked up they don't even bother with a wai…

Yup, all we hear about constantly from politicians is that there’s a mental health crisis. Every time there’s a mass shooting, they blame mental health. Okay, fine, we all agree this is a problem, so why can’t I find a therapist? Why can’t my bipolar 1 ex wife find a psychiatrist? She’s batshit manic right now telling the cops I’m breaking into her apartment stealing antique doll dresses for crying out loud. How does…

Because the AMA want to protect doctor salaries, so they won't let doctors immigrate from other countries and practice here, as if there's anything worse about the training in Europe.

Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web

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Post by chrgy »

ADHD Management Guide

For individuals with ADHD, leading a balanced life can be a challenge, but with the right strategies, it can be achieved. Here are some essential tips to help manage ADHD effectively:

1. Diet:

Lower Carbs & Sugar: Reducing carbohydrate and sugar intake can positively impact focus and energy levels. 2. Physical Activity:

Regular Exercise: Engage in at least 1 hour of exercise daily to boost cognitive function and reduce hyperactivity. 3. Mental Wellbeing:

Meditation: Incorporate mindfulness and meditation practices to improve concentration. Pomodoro Technique: Use the Pomodoro method to break tasks into manageable intervals, aiding focus. 4. Support Systems:

Coaching & Support Groups: Joining such groups can provide guidance, understanding, and community. 5. Caffeine Intake:

Reduce Caffeine: Excessive caffeine can increase anxiety, especially in individuals with ADHD. 6. Planning & Organization:

Consistent Planning: Establish a routine and stick to it for better time management. Micro-Tasking: Break down tasks into smaller steps. This approach can make daunting tasks feel more achievable. 7. Medication (Consult a Professional):

Consider Adderall: If other strategies aren't enough, consult your doctor about the possibility of medication like Adderall. Remember, everyone's journey with ADHD is unique. It's essential to find what combination of strategies works best for you and to seek professional advice when needed

Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web

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Post by mollybee »

esharte wrote: post #84
christalwang wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Coaching works best for those who are ready for forward movement: unlike most types of therapy, coaching is goal-oriented / solution-oriented and requires the member to be in a good enough space to want to look into the future & put in the work. Often members use therapy / medication in tandem with coaching. Coaching works least effectively for those with severe comorbidities like depression/anxiety/bi-polar that are…

"Coaching works best for those who are ready for forward movement" Meaning "if our product doesn't work, it's really your fault"

The sentence could definitely be worded better. When I first read it, I had a similar thought, but upon further reading, I realized I was making a very large and unfair assumption. It's not exactly a secret that people who are already doing pretty well are the ones who have the energy and capacity to make further progress. Struggling with mental health issues, especially executive dysfunction, makes it harder to to do the work required to improve one's mental health. That reality is endlessly frustrating but undeniable. Someone who's not ready to move forward may not have the capacity to benefit from the structure and content of coaching. Coaching is all about taking active steps toward goals between sessions. It takes a lot of energy and effort. When I was just barely treading water, I didn't have the energy for that kind of work. I had to get to that point through therapy, support from friends, and a LOT of rest. Sure, I could have talked to my coach once a week, but I wouldn't have had the capacity to benefit as much as I do now. That doesn't mean it would have been "my fault" if I didn't benefit from coaching; it means I wouldn't have been a good fit, and Shimmer probably wouldn't have taken my money.

Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web

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Post by astrange »

gtvwill wrote: post #72

Erf that pricing is cooked. Straight into the basket of unobtanium along with the 3000 bucks for adult diagnosis. Cheers but no thanks. Man I'm glad I don't live in the US. Healthcare for a profit is gross. Go get some government funding and release your service for more accessible prices.

Healthcare providers in countries with universal healthcare are doing it for a profit; they get paid, after all.

Conversely, most US hospitals are nonprofits and US insurance companies' profits are capped by ACA. But that doesn't stop them from being expensive.

Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web

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Post by astrange »

christalwang wrote: post #151
ablyveiled wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the interest of brevity, here's a good summary video of Peat's nutritional ideas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb2F8xLQMvw

Wow, 3-min video. Exactly what I needed, thank you. Super interesting, I'm going to look into his work more.

You shouldn't because he is an insane person/seed oil conspiracy theorist who thinks avocados give you cancer.
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