Live data from Hacker News

Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

rijksoverheid.nl

191–200 of 802 posts

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

#191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Remember: A trader in the EU is not obligated to accept more than 50 metal coins for the same payment. I shall try and remember that.

This is the most disappointing rule ever. It makes my dream of returning money in thousands of 1 cent coins out of spite impossible

Only if they know the rule tho

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

#192
post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would that be a problem? I can just deposit them like I normally do and use VISA or PayPal while international.

Or you could just carry the credit card and pay at the end of the month, skipping the business with 'stablecoins'.

The entire thread is about people not being able to go across borders with x amount of cash without declaring it. I could walk across a border with 100k in stablecoins and never declare it, and then have immediate access to those funds like I would cash. My point is to show the absurdity of these kinds of laws.

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

#193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice to see that there's no limit where I live which is Norway. Hopefully, there are no plans to introduce one.

I am confused by your post. What are some good reasons to allow cash payments above 3000 EUR?

[flagged]

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

#196
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spain's 1,000€ may be the most restrictive, close to Romania's 5,000 lei.

I'm quite sure they are not enforcing it since i was traveling to and walking with across spain with much more.

They are. I could not pay in cash for my lasik surgery some years ago due to this.

I wasn't planning on paying in cash but they dily informed me.

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

#197
post #75

We had a guy in Usti nad labem coming to Raiffeisenbank every few weeks and deposing money, approximately 4b usd in total. The bank was supposed to run due diligence but its Raiffeisenbank which does not seem to give a shit. I can sort of understand trying to limit cash when you see that the due diligence is mostly omitted. https://www.irozhlas.cz/zpravy-domov/smenarny-prani-spinavyc...

4 billion dollars! Supposing he carried a large army rucksack each time, full with 25kg of US $100 bills. That would be 2.5 million dollars a time, and it would still take him 1600 trips. If he came "every few weeks" at 20 times a year, it would take him 80 years. A billion dollars really is a lot of money. Perhaps he brought the money by wheelbarrow or car or container truck, or he dealt exclusively in €500 notes, s…

I would imagine one would invest in a van that could carry pallets.

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

#198
Frustrating to see more laws like this that can readily throw a wrench in the day to day lives of regular working people, when money laundering and tax evasion at a scale multiple orders of magnitude larger than this is so shamelessly visible in the form of nine-figure real estate transactions, art auctions, and Caymans-based shell corporations.

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

#199
post #53

The maximum limit for cash payments in Italy is 1000€, so 3k would still be a lot. Why would someone need to pay for 10k in cash? Where does that cash come from? 60% of the times, it's money laundering every time. edit: I suppose since I'm in EU and I'm only 30 I'm "used" to the 1k limit, while non-EU (or specifically USA) people might be grabbing their pitchforks.

> Why would someone need to pay for 10k in cash? The answer to this is very simple: none of your business. I take strong issue with the word "need." Why do you need that car? That television? That four bedroom house? Why do you need that bow and arrow? For sport, you say? Why not play some ball game instead? Why do you need a chess set when you can play digitally online without killing a tree? Why do you need those f…

Nothing wrong with this point of view, except that it's not shared by Europeans as far as I know (and feel).

The "none of your business" doesn't work in the long run.

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

#200

If the endgame is to ban cash, what would be the back up plan for in case of war, solar flare* or other natural disaster? *electromagnetic pulse destroy electronic devices (no ATMs, card readers)

If a solar flare powerful enough to destroy the entire electronic payment system were to occur I'm sure everyone will be fine with you buying your storable food and colloidal silver with cash.

But solar flares that powerful are an actual serious threat, and have been recorded throughout history. It's just we have been so lucky to develop a heavy dependence on electricity in a quiet period.

The Carrington Event is the "most recent" in 1859 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event

That would in the 2000s cause serious damage

>In June 2013, a joint venture from researchers at Lloyd's of London and Atmospheric and Environmental Research (AER) in the US used data from the Carrington Event to estimate the cost of a similar event in the present to the US alone at US$600 billion to $2.6 trillion (equivalent to $698 billion to $3.02 trillion in 2021[28]),[3] which, at the time, equated to roughly 3.6 to 15.5 per cent of annual GDP.

NOAA currently puts Carrington Events at a 1 in 500 year occurrence on Earth.

Post reply on HN