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@dang I'm honestly not sure what the correct cause of action is when one person is effectively taking over a thread with their comments. They appear to have a deep-seated hatred of Scott McNealy, so perhaps should not be commenting for their own mental and emotional health. But their comments have lots of information that will probably spark a lot of conversation. My gut feeling is that we shouldn't "encourage" such…
"Nearly three decades of competing without a notable incident of our folks going off course morally or legally." Not many tech CEOs can say that.
> "...But I love the market economy and capitalism more than I love my company," McNealy said in the memo. Does this help explain the fall of Java? Of Sun?
> Does this help explain the fall of Java? I don't know in which alternative universe Java did fell. Java is huger than huge. It may not be the language of the Web (and this site heavily slants towards people coding in JavaScript) but in the enterprise world Java is really gigantic and won't be sunset before a very long time. The JVM is an incredible piece of machinery that is not going away either. FWIW I find it qu…
> "...But I love the market economy and capitalism more than I love my company," McNealy said in the memo. Does this help explain the fall of Java? Of Sun?
> Does this help explain the fall of Java? I don't know in which alternative universe Java did fell. Java is huger than huge. It may not be the language of the Web (and this site heavily slants towards people coding in JavaScript) but in the enterprise world Java is really gigantic and won't be sunset before a very long time. The JVM is an incredible piece of machinery that is not going away either. FWIW I find it qu…
I remember him telling me a story about when he first met Tiger Woods. Their wives were college friends so Tiger and his wife visited the McNealy's at their home in the Bay Area.
It was later in the evening, the sun had set (no pun intended), and Scott, being a huge golf fan (his son is a pro golfer now) was picking Tiger's brain. The next thing they knew, they were chucking balls off of Scott's back deck onto the roof of the neighbors house and then running and hiding, giggling like two pre-teen boys making prank calls.
I (re)found a small brochure at work that contains the company mission statement with rationale from Scott McNealy. This was long time after Sun was acquired, however I found it interesting enough to retype it: https://gist.github.com/vladak/c0abb6856d7902291f760be467b24... I've never had the capacity to think deeply about what is within, however I do remember the days around 2007 or so when it seemed to me that ther…
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> Does this help explain the fall of Java? I don't know in which alternative universe Java did fell. Java is huger than huge. It may not be the language of the Web (and this site heavily slants towards people coding in JavaScript) but in the enterprise world Java is really gigantic and won't be sunset before a very long time. The JVM is an incredible piece of machinery that is not going away either. FWIW I find it qu…
I'm surprised this is just occuring to me now, but is Java the next COBOL?
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It's his memo. My epitaph will also say what a wonderful person I was.
You are free to show that the statement was wrong.
Sun Microsystems under McNealy were also no friends of Linux or open source. Though less visible than Microsoft, plenty of FUD came from Sun about how Linux would never equal proper operating systems like Solaris. (In a sense, he wasn't wrong; IMO Linux didn't really catch up until Sun Microsystems had effectively died by being sold to Oracle to be gutted.)
> "...But I love the market economy and capitalism more than I love my company," McNealy said in the memo. Does this help explain the fall of Java? Of Sun?
> Does this help explain the fall of Java? I don't know in which alternative universe Java did fell. Java is huger than huge. It may not be the language of the Web (and this site heavily slants towards people coding in JavaScript) but in the enterprise world Java is really gigantic and won't be sunset before a very long time. The JVM is an incredible piece of machinery that is not going away either. FWIW I find it qu…
And it could've been (not the applet plugins that the browser vendors temporarily permitted, but more like HotJava, ubiquitous computing, etc.).
If Java was intended for enterprise (MIS programmers), they wouldn't have made it look like C.
And despite Java's pivot to enterprise, Microsoft was still able to get people to re-up for their over-the-barrel backstabbings, to adopt .NET.
I know Java is big in enterprise, but IMHO it's a fall from what it could've been.