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McNealy's bittersweet memo bids good-bye to Sun (2010)

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Re: McNealy's bittersweet memo bids good-bye to Sun (2010)

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Post by saiya-jin »

sgift wrote: post #11
DonHopkins wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I have seen your posts and that you don't like the man. I don't like supporting Trump either. But that has nothing to do with the statement above. edit: Since you edited your post since I've answered: I also disagree with his opinions on Corona. Still has nothing to do with the statement above. edit2: I'm tired of you stealth editing your post every other minute and your accusations. Find someone else to play.

you can counter this easily by quoting him fully in your post... if you actually care about such a discussion

Re: McNealy's bittersweet memo bids good-bye to Sun (2010)

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Post by jsiepkes »

ninjin wrote: post #19
kriro wrote: post #16

""" Saw McNealy on his throne All alone and only bones """ I will forever associate his name with this song: https://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#33

Probably worth to add the context as well: "This song is an allegory of the recent difficulties we went through dealing with Sun, who refused our request for documentation about their UltraSPARC III processors. We want documentation, because these are the fastest processors with a per-page eXecute bit in the MMU, needed to fully support our new W^X security feature. In the meantime, the AMD Hammer has come onto the s…

Additionally OpenBSD 3.3 was released in 2003. In 2005 SUN started with opensourcing large parts of the SPARC processor design. You can find some of it here: https://www.oracle.com/servers/technologies/opensparc.html

Re: McNealy's bittersweet memo bids good-bye to Sun (2010)

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Post by justin66 »

Animats wrote: post #2

"Nearly three decades of competing without a notable incident of our folks going off course morally or legally." Not many tech CEOs can say that.

Even Ed McCracken could write something like that about himself.

He'd use crayons or something to do it, but still.

Re: McNealy's bittersweet memo bids good-bye to Sun (2010)

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Post by TacticalCoder »

neilv wrote: post #25

> "...But I love the market economy and capitalism more than I love my company," McNealy said in the memo. Does this help explain the fall of Java? Of Sun?

> Does this help explain the fall of Java?

I don't know in which alternative universe Java did fell. Java is huger than huge. It may not be the language of the Web (and this site heavily slants towards people coding in JavaScript) but in the enterprise world Java is really gigantic and won't be sunset before a very long time.

The JVM is an incredible piece of machinery that is not going away either.

FWIW I find it quite funny that many here seems to consider that the JetBrains IDEs are the best IDEs out there... JetBrains is all about the JVM (be it Java or Kotlin). And these aren't going away anytime soon either.

Re: McNealy's bittersweet memo bids good-bye to Sun (2010)

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Post by [deleted] »

sgift wrote: post #11
DonHopkins wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I have seen your posts and that you don't like the man. I don't like supporting Trump either. But that has nothing to do with the statement above. edit: Since you edited your post since I've answered: I also disagree with his opinions on Corona. Still has nothing to do with the statement above. edit2: I'm tired of you stealth editing your post every other minute and your accusations. Find someone else to play.

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Re: McNealy's bittersweet memo bids good-bye to Sun (2010)

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Post by otikik »

neilv wrote: post #25

> "...But I love the market economy and capitalism more than I love my company," McNealy said in the memo. Does this help explain the fall of Java? Of Sun?

I have not investigated this at all, but the way I interpreted this was:

"I love my company. I know it's going to become worse after being acquired by Oracle, but I got a lot of money on the process and I love that more".

So perhaps in an indirect way, it is related. Again, I have not done any research at all, I could be completely mischaracterizing this. He might not have seen a single dime.

Re: McNealy's bittersweet memo bids good-bye to Sun (2010)

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Post by vladak »

I (re)found a small brochure at work that contains the company mission statement with rationale from Scott McNealy. This was long time after Sun was acquired, however I found it interesting enough to retype it:

https://gist.github.com/vladak/c0abb6856d7902291f760be467b24...

I've never had the capacity to think deeply about what is within, however I do remember the days around 2007 or so when it seemed to me that there was not a week where some new exciting technology (software or hardware) was not being released. For me as a freshman this was impressive.

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